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#481 Posted : 6/14/2018 11:47:51 AM

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ridnovir wrote:
Is [Distillates, (petroleum), light distillate hydrotreating process, low-boiling] same as naphtha?

Yes
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#482 Posted : 6/22/2018 11:35:19 AM

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What about this naphtas one has 60-95 tje other 100-140
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#483 Posted : 6/22/2018 3:34:21 PM

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CEVISI wrote:
What about this naphtas one has 60-95 tje other 100-140

Pull with the heavy naphtha (100-140), re-x with the light naphtha (60-95)

i.e., buy both!

(Interested to know what shop that is...)
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#484 Posted : 6/22/2018 5:24:55 PM

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Thanks i get 40-60 wundbenzin too i pull whit that so the 140 ist really better ?

That is a big known german drugstore they got this soövents in every shop
 
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#485 Posted : 6/23/2018 9:27:00 PM

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Thanks i get 40-60 wundbenzin too i pull whit that so the 140 ist really better ?

In my most humble opinion, heavier (but still aromatics-free) naphtha has shown itself to be advantageous to use when pulling from warm base soup with a view to freeze precipitation. For one thing, it evaporates more slowly which could be considered a positive if evaporation is not part of your plan. It does mean that recrystallisation from a lower-boiling solvent is preferable, however.

I think the temperature/solubility gradient is more favourable with a heavier naphtha although that's only my anecdotal word.
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#486 Posted : 6/23/2018 10:54:57 PM

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Ok thank you alot i will give it a try
 
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#487 Posted : 7/7/2018 9:59:38 PM
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I've been getting a consistent low yield on every extraction attempt, first pull always yields 250mg and the second usually 50mg or less (from 50g of MHRB). So far I've tried about 3 different A/B teks with 2 different root bark sources, both shredded and powdered and yet I still get the exact same yields. Only thing I haven't changed in each extraction attempt is the solvent, which has this composition:
[CAS 110-54-3] n-Hexane ≥25% - <50%
[CAS 142-82-5] Heptane ≥25% - <50%
[CAS 64742-89-8] Low boiling point solvent naphtha ≥10% - <25%
[CAS 111-65-9] Octane, all isomers ≥5% - <10%
Could this solvent be the reason I'm getting such low yields? If so, what should I use instead?
 
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#488 Posted : 7/7/2018 10:11:30 PM

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Try s/b
 
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#489 Posted : 8/2/2018 3:35:31 PM
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I've just tried STB from Cyb's salt tek and got the same results as with A/B. 1st pull 255mg and second pull 68mg (0.6% yield total)
 
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#490 Posted : 8/2/2018 3:47:45 PM

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Solvent seems to be OK. Are you using lab-grade chemicals?
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#491 Posted : 8/3/2018 12:26:09 AM
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pete666 wrote:
Solvent seems to be OK. Are you using lab-grade chemicals?

No, the only lab-grade chemical I'm using is distilled water. The rest (lye, vinegar, solvent) are store bought.
 
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#492 Posted : 8/19/2018 5:20:31 PM

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Hello guys - Ive been researching now for ages.. Live in Iceland so it's not the easiest to find naphtha.
I found something called Petroleum Ether that's supposed to be naphtha, BUT it says boiling point 20-75 celcius . Tek Im gonna use calls for heating naphtha in water bath. Will it start to boil then ? Isnt that dangerous ? msds on link;
https://us.vwr.com/asset...US/id/18528706/contents

edit: I've also found some "washbenzine" but it's c7-c9 and some say that evaporate slowly and aren't great for pulling.. also left water mark on evap test. But that one boils at over 100 degrees celcius
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#493 Posted : 8/19/2018 8:22:25 PM

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hanshotfirst15 wrote:
Hello guys - Ive been researching now for ages.. Live in Iceland so it's not the easiest to find naphtha.
I found something called Petroleum Ether that's supposed to be naphtha, BUT it says boiling point 20-75 celcius . Tek Im gonna use calls for heating naphtha in water bath. Will it start to boil then ? Isnt that dangerous ? msds on link;
https://us.vwr.com/asset...US/id/18528706/contents

edit: I've also found some "washbenzine" but it's c7-c9 and some say that evaporate slowly and aren't great for pulling.. also left water mark on evap test. But that one boils at over 100 degrees celcius

Get both. Pull with the wash benzine and recrystallise your product with the pet. ether. And don't worry about that boiling range, only tiny amounts will boil off at 20°C.
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#494 Posted : 8/19/2018 8:28:34 PM

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Thank you downward Very happy now I can finally start my mission to hyperspace
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#495 Posted : 9/30/2018 9:54:27 AM
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Hey Guys, i'm new here so I don't know which forum would be the most suited to this specific query that I have.

I'm trying to find research on the comparative difference between marijuana(as a whole) and DMT(also as a whole) for the reason being knowing people who don't exactly gel well with being under the influence of weed but in my belief would come to a great benefit with having the later of the 2.
To boil it down simply, I want to know if someone who has negative effects under weed, would that carry on to the experience of DMT?

As I said before, I don't know which forum to go to for this so either some directions or some Educated opinions or first hand testimony would be of significant help

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#496 Posted : 10/22/2018 6:17:18 PM

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Hello folks! Any idea what works good as a substitute to toluene? I cannot get it without a license in my country.
 
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#497 Posted : 12/3/2018 10:23:23 PM

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I keep trying to go to this link and it says "Access Denied."
I read that the "Suppliers" section becomes available upon registration.
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#498 Posted : 12/3/2018 11:29:05 PM

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#499 Posted : 12/4/2018 10:45:33 AM
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Naptha pretty much doesn't exist in Australia as far as I know.
I found people saying that Shellite works perfectly fine for dmt, but does it have different properties? I was curious as to using it for lsa extraction as the ingredients for that also contain naptha.
 
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#500 Posted : 12/10/2018 12:43:45 PM

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Hello!

Working on my first extraction and could do with straightening out a bit.

I've been finding it difficult to get hold of cheap, pure Naphtha (or any pure Naphtha, really).
I'm UK based and apparently it's a little difficult to source here.

Many people talk about 'Coleman' fuel. Those in the US say it's liquid cancer, but having acquired an MSDS from Coleman directly, the ingredients seem pretty solid.
I gather that Pentane and Heptane are fine components, and this fuel is essentially made up from Naphtha, Pentane, and Heptane.

The only issue I have is with the entry marked: < 0.1 % EC 200-753-7.

EC 200-753-7 is Benzene apparently. At less than 0.1%, is this an okay solvent to use?
Also, there is much talk about 'rust inhibitors', although I can't find anything that would come under that category on this sheet. Is it simply not mentioned?
The liquid itself is completely clear (Unlike in the US, where it is usually coloured red or blue) and seems to evaporate just fine.

I've searched the forum for 'Benzene' (people only talk about it in larger amounts) and 'Coleman' (there seems to be a pretty hefty discrepancy between US Coleman and UK Coleman)
Apologies if I've missed something glaringly obvious.



Components section of the MSDS: Here

Any help would be appreciated. Cheers!
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