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#1 Posted : 3/11/2018 9:08:22 PM

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Wondering if there are brave and stupid enough people to try it. In tandem of course.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/11/2018 10:09:17 PM

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Sounds like a way to end up dead. Even if they were strapped to someone, flailing around on DMT while someone else tries to steer a chute is a recipe for REAL death.

I wouldn't recommend it.
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#3 Posted : 3/11/2018 10:22:30 PM

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I'm sorry, but this is just plain stupid.

DMT is already far more exhilarating than parachute diving. Plus, the beauty of DMT is with eyes closed. The dive is just a distraction, not to mention potentially lethal.
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#4 Posted : 3/12/2018 7:44:11 AM

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I completely agree that this is beyond stupid. It's just that one of my acquaintances told me a story about friend of his who apparently jumped while on acid. Assuming there is no limit to human stupidity, I was wondering if there are any recorded events of trying the same with DMT.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/12/2018 9:39:25 AM

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I'd probably skydive on acid. Big grin

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#6 Posted : 3/12/2018 12:11:19 PM

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#7 Posted : 3/12/2018 12:11:32 PM

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I'd probably skydive on acid. Big grin

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I certainly understand and respect the viewpoint that it might be stupid.

Having said that, I am in also.

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#8 Posted : 3/12/2018 12:45:18 PM

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woogyboogy wrote:
https://www.shroomery.org/9675/Godlike-DMT-Skydiving-Experience

DMT Skydive Experience


Nicely written story, but not true unfortunately (you might already know this, wb)...

From poster: "...With utmost respect and honesty, i must say... this trip report was just a dream, mixed with a psychology experiment for school and a yearn to learn how to love life again."

Genuine reasons to write it nonetheless. I wonder how he did on the assignment?
 
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#9 Posted : 3/12/2018 1:38:15 PM

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DoingKermit wrote:
woogyboogy wrote:
https://www.shroomery.org/9675/Godlike-DMT-Skydiving-Experience

DMT Skydive Experience


Nicely written story, but not true unfortunately (you might already know this, wb)...

From poster: "...With utmost respect and honesty, i must say... this trip report was just a dream, mixed with a psychology experiment for school and a yearn to learn how to love life again."

Genuine reasons to write it nonetheless. I wonder how he did on the assignment?


Thanks Kermit for clearing that up. No I wasnt aware, although I had my doubts after reading it.

On topic: I also think that LSD is probably the go to drug for those inclined to do such actions. The use of LSD microdoses for enhancing extreme sports is widely known. And from a microdose to a macrodose its just a small step called curiousity.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/12/2018 5:26:58 PM

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#11 Posted : 3/13/2018 7:41:25 PM

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Setting safety aside, which would be foolish.... safety is the first concern, but let's say that hypothetically everything was totally safe:

I think it would take away from both experiences. I have never been skydiving before, but if I did I would want to be sober, clear headed, and able to take in all the emotions that come with such a powerful experience. And the same mindset goes for DMT.

Combining the two experiences is going to lead to stimulation overload, and essentially you will either be out of this body, due to the DMT, and get nothing from the skydive (except potentially injured) and the act of skydiving might overtake the DMT, or you might have low dose effects, and just be distracted the whole time - from both experiences. You might be in the body enough to be concerned that you're on a very powerful drug, while also coming to the realization you are falling very fast towards the ground, and that the only thing that stops you from smashing to bits is the trust that someone else will pull that cord..... Could make for difficult experiences.

So... that being said. I wouldn't recommend that anyone take DMT and go skydiving. Go skydiving with a trained professional (sober) and then come home that night and safely smoke DMT in the proper setting, and pretend that you did the two at the same time Pleased.
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#12 Posted : 3/14/2018 12:55:12 PM

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if youโ€™ve ever experienced this stuff youโ€™d know not to do it. Do you really think you could shoot your hand out of hyperspace to pull your parachute or even know what a parachute was?
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#13 Posted : 3/16/2018 12:02:25 PM

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I could envisage that this would be entirely possible if one had an e-cig vape at hand and knew and had tested the desired (responsible) dosage. I think only sub-breakthroughs would be of any value, and minimal ones at that.

I would imagine the feeling to be utterly blissful and freeing. If only it were safer Big grin
 
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#14 Posted : 3/22/2018 5:56:22 PM

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I have done both multiple times but never together, that sound moronic to be honest.

They are similar in nature though. I have stated the following before here on the nexus, but it bears repeating.

DMT is like jumping out of a plane. Your mind is waiting for the ground to come. It panics at first. It wants to flail and place the hand out to protect against the fall. The ground is not coming. The mind takes a moment to adjust to this. When it does, it learns to fly.

Both require a certain letting go in the mind. The panic must be quieted. Yes... it is falling and not flying but when you let go it is like flying. Suddenly you can look around without the panic and it is truly beautiful!! It is amazing dropping out of a plane! It is amazing taking DMT! Both create something very similar in the brain. Both can teach you to let go! Both can show you such beauty!!

I highly recommend both but not at the same time!
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Breaking news.
Man completely obliterated on dmt falls out of airplane before tandem instructor was able to attach him to the harness.



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#16 Posted : 4/13/2018 4:53:12 PM

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DmnStr8 wrote:
I have done both multiple times but never together, that sound moronic to be honest.

They are similar in nature though. I have stated the following before here on the nexus, but it bears repeating.

DMT is like jumping out of a plane. Your mind is waiting for the ground to come. It panics at first. It wants to flail and place the hand out to protect against the fall. The ground is not coming. The mind takes a moment to adjust to this. When it does, it learns to fly.

Both require a certain letting go in the mind. The panic must be quieted. Yes... it is falling and not flying but when you let go it is like flying. Suddenly you can look around without the panic and it is truly beautiful!! It is amazing dropping out of a plane! It is amazing taking DMT! Both create something very similar in the brain. Both can teach you to let go! Both can show you such beauty!!

I highly recommend both but not at the same time!


Could you say if one is more intense than the other?
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#17 Posted : 4/13/2018 8:25:19 PM

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It's a different kind of intense, so it's a bit like apples and oranges. The main difference is ofcourse that when you jump out of a plane, you could actually die if you don't follow the right procedures.
 
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#18 Posted : 4/14/2018 1:10:17 AM

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Loveall wrote:
Could you say if one is more intense than the other?


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DMT is more intense I would say! It can be completely ego shattering as you very well know.

The first time I skydived, I had what is called 'sensory overload', I didn't know where I was, who I was, and kind of just blanked out for a couple seconds. I failed my AFF log (Accelerated Free Fall) for that jump for this reason, however, I never had this happen again on subsequent jumps.

Accelerate Free Fall is a course where you jump out with two jumpmasters and they hold onto your pant leg and and waist area to keep you level, until you learn how to level yourself. You have to do practice touches to your ripcord and signal at 5500 feet for deployment of your chute. One jumpmaster then clears and the other stays with you until your chute has been pulled. I highly recommend this course for any of those out there with typa A personalities. I never tired tandom, but I am sure it is also very fun.

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Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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