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#21 Posted : 9/21/2015 5:35:27 PM

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anne halonium wrote:
peyote is alot of fun isnt it?

Not the first 2-3 h.
That dreadful time frame seemed to shorten considerably after each experience with Hikuri, ymmv.
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Could be, I'm a yote noob. Doesn't grow here nor are there churches. The smartshop yotes are garbage so the last trip was 15 years ago. Maybe I get the call at a certain time again.
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#22 Posted : 10/1/2015 6:55:33 AM

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they have meetings in the czech as far as I know. That might be the best place to look for it in europe..
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#23 Posted : 10/2/2015 6:01:31 AM

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Ive been chewing low doses of this stuff for days now...

mescaline is just...something else. The absolulte most aesthetic quality of life.
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#24 Posted : 10/4/2015 8:39:05 PM

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oetzi13 wrote:
they have meetings in the czech as far as I know. That might be the best place to look for it in europe..


Virtually any cactus nursery in Europe will sell you Lophophora williamsii. It is just another cactus here - only American and Australian idiots have a problem with it.
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#25 Posted : 10/8/2015 3:18:48 AM

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I repotted a Lophophora williamsii today - one of the class of 2004, when I did a large winter sowing. On unpotting, a beautiful large and healthy taproot was evident, along with a couple of good sized sprouts, which I repotted separately.



It went into one of the largest of my Long Toms.



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#26 Posted : 10/8/2015 3:28:50 AM

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very nice! I wish mine were that size.

Since my first report I have had a couple more experiences with peyote. This stuff is really beautiful. Im eating more on friday night and I have some tea prepared from the mid section of a peruvianus I decided was ready for testing.

Cacti has a profound spiritual aspect to it, that I find rivals 5-MeO-DMT, but in it's own unique way.
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#27 Posted : 10/8/2015 9:23:04 PM

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the whole cactus thing is a world unto itself.

from seed to ceremony,
cactus has its own identity.

ive compared it to many things over the yrs.
yet nothing compares.
cactus just sorta stands by itself i suppose.


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#28 Posted : 10/15/2015 12:09:08 AM

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yup, its a life long love affair..

yes, they sell it eveywhere in EU. But not the ceremony.
Its interesting to use in such a settings at least once, if you are into it..
I have been to several NAC meetings. They are very strict I find. I am curiois how they use it down south in Mexico. Planning a trip for next year to find out..will report back!
I heard they drink beer with it..lol...quite different to NAC..where you are not even allowed to puff..
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#29 Posted : 10/15/2015 1:11:13 AM

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I have an ayahuasca shaman friend who has experienced peyote ceremonies with both the NAC and the Huichols. She also said the NAC was very strict and kinda morose in vibe, she really didn't like how they ran the ceremonies. She found the experience with the Huichols a whole different ball game though and she really enjoyed the experience, I'm not sure on the precise details. It seems like the Huichols are opening up a little to outsiders in recent times. I have another friend who partook of a Huichol ceremony and he corroborates the beer story...just one or two, not a lot...half way through the night, and he also really enjoyed the experience.
 
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#30 Posted : 10/15/2015 4:24:06 AM

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I cut the mid section out of my oldest peruvianus on the weekend and brewed it up..only about 5 inches of cacti, and like 3-4 inch width..and man it was potent and one of the coolest mescaline experiences I have had.

One thing I want to mention about mescaline, that no one else talks about, is that I see a thread of the experience that is shared with 5-MeO-DMT..and that is the experience of the light. There is a lot of light in mescaline. I don't just mean the colors. Mescaline is the most colorful psychedelic I have used at this point, but what I mean is the golden and white light.

Ive seen white light beam out of a sandwich I was eating on mescaline and in the light was god..it was the clear light of god. It also happened on the torch. Peyote and torch both did it. The experience of the light was very similar to my 5-MeO-DMT light out, except instead of having to die into the light, the light just infused into our world.

Mescaline puts me in touch with the god inside of myself, and everything. I become the most devout atheist and theist at the same time.

I dunno why more people are not taking the stuff. Mescaline is just classy..so classy.
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#31 Posted : 10/15/2015 10:00:42 PM

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So true, mescaline really brings light into the world. A true medicine. Love

[eye scans over to pile of pach. & peruv. cuttings. Hmmm....]




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#32 Posted : 10/16/2015 12:40:10 AM

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Jamie, I've really enjoyed your posts about sacred cacti - I haven't taken a psychedelic dose of cactus in years, and have been feeling inspired to do so for a while now... personally, I haven't found microdosing san pedro or peruvian torch that enjoyable, as it tends to be overstimulating for me - granted, it's even more stimulating at a psychedelic level, but at that point it seems like the psychedelic effects kind of take over...
 
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#33 Posted : 6/13/2016 11:25:33 PM

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jamie wrote:
I cut the mid section out of my oldest peruvianus on the weekend and brewed it up..only about 5 inches of cacti, and like 3-4 inch width..and man it was potent and one of the coolest mescaline experiences I have had.

One thing I want to mention about mescaline, that no one else talks about, is that I see a thread of the experience that is shared with 5-MeO-DMT..and that is the experience of the light. There is a lot of light in mescaline. I don't just mean the colors. Mescaline is the most colorful psychedelic I have used at this point, but what I mean is the golden and white light.

Ive seen white light beam out of a sandwich I was eating on mescaline and in the light was god..it was the clear light of god. It also happened on the torch. Peyote and torch both did it. The experience of the light was very similar to my 5-MeO-DMT light out, except instead of having to die into the light, the light just infused into our world.

Mescaline puts me in touch with the god inside of myself, and everything. I become the most devout atheist and theist at the same time.

I dunno why more people are not taking the stuff. Mescaline is just classy..so classy.


Thanks for your original report and the above comments Jamie, amazing! Thumbs up

I'm curious though, you just chewed a few dry grams straight with no preparation? The urban shamans I've talked to suggest using lemon to liberate the alkaloids, yet it sounds like you just chewed it straight for the original experience, is that right? And in the traditional native american ceremony I posted about recently, it was in tea form.

I've just discovered that in this beautiful northwestern coastal city where the water is not fluoridated, peyote is also legal, so more work and exploration remains to be done... if chewing it directly with no prep can have the effects you mentioned then exciting times lay ahead.
 
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#34 Posted : 12/17/2017 3:32:23 AM

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I walk the shamanic path, My medicine man is tought by our elder from the huichol community in Santan catarina. not all huichols lead ceremonies but all walk the shamanic path.
 
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#35 Posted : 12/17/2017 4:29:12 PM

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Peyote is wonderfull. But i do find it to be pretty inconsistent, like all of the other cacti. I've had peyotes that felt almost like pure mescaline, but i've also had peyotes that had a lot of other stuff in it.

I think the problem with peyote, is pellotine. Pellotine is a sedative, and maybe a bit of a deliriant. The mescaline/pellotine ratio is not fixed in these cacti. If you have a lot of pellotine in your peyote, then the experience will simply be far less clear, and more disoriented as well.

Putting your cactus in a dark place, and not watering it for a long time, will increase the mescaline content, but not the pellotine content, i think. Because my best experiences where with cacti that i didn't water for at least a couple of months.
 
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dragonrider wrote:
Peyote is wonderfull. But i do find it to be pretty inconsistent, like all of the other cacti. I've had peyotes that felt almost like pure mescaline, but i've also had peyotes that had a lot of other stuff in it.

I think the problem with peyote, is pellotine. Pellotine is a sedative, and maybe a bit of a deliriant. The mescaline/pellotine ratio is not fixed in these cacti. If you have a lot of pellotine in your peyote, then the experience will simply be far less clear, and more disoriented as well.

Putting your cactus in a dark place, and not watering it for a long time, will increase the mescaline content, but not the pellotine content, i think. Because my best experiences where with cacti that i didn't water for at least a couple of months.


I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistent when you talk about pejuta aka peyote. I've been a member of the NAC for many years and I've never found any inconsistencies in my albeit subjective experience. Peyote tea tends to be made in large batches with several peyotes. However, even with that being said, I've eaten specimens the size of my hand... never had any issues with disorientation from low dosages of a single specimen.

With that being said, one peyote button the size of your hand will be much different than 6 peyote buttons the same size. Your talking about a difference that is largely due to quantity however and not a difference in quality however.
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