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Colorimetric test results (Marquis, Mecke, Ehrlich, etc) for different alkaloids Options
 
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#21 Posted : 2/20/2014 2:01:09 AM

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Good news for everyone who has the fear of taking bunk psychoactive substances. http://bunkpolice.org/

These amazing kits are 3 different test. one for your usual substances(lsd,MDMA,psilocybin,etc), one for cuts in powders and one for more exotic RCs.(you can even test for DMT and 5 Meo DMT Smile ) So basically you can figure out if you have the real deal and if not theres about 60 differents Rcs to test for. They are very easy to use, and you can use the many many times.

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#22 Posted : 2/20/2014 4:47:55 AM

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Thanks for info... i want a test kit..it makes sense ..especialy when extracting your own!
 
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#23 Posted : 2/20/2014 5:57:51 AM

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thanks for the edit, i guess i should have added a bit more detail Embarrased I have seen for myself how these things can save lifes and i encourage any explorers to make this small investment into having a safe future.


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#24 Posted : 2/20/2014 6:06:29 AM

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here is just an example of what the marquis tests for.
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#25 Posted : 2/22/2014 12:45:59 AM

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benzyme wrote:
common street drug-specific tests are listed in Clarke's Analysis of Drugs and Poisons, Ch. 11.

Splendid, thanks for the link - and download!
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#26 Posted : 4/29/2014 6:43:36 PM

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I don't understand why DPT is listed as "Marquis: Yellow" in the original post, as my reaction went from light brown->dark brown->dark olive/black over time. This is confirmed in post#24 above.

Also, can someone add DPT Mandelin to the list? Here is my result


Dark Brown initially then to orange after ~20 minutes.
 
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#27 Posted : 4/29/2014 8:20:52 PM

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Are you talking about marquis in the first part?

If so, there seem to be two sources, one says yellow for marquis (no refference is given, I dont remember to be honest), the other says Greenish brown for both marquis and mandellin.

Can you confirm that those images are in order? How long did it take to get to the red?

Trying to sum up the color changes in only one or two colors is very poor, and often the researchers don´t specify after how long of the reaction did they write the color of, etc...

That´s why we have been working on doing high quality filming of substance reactions, stay tuned during this summer for more info Very happy
 
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endlessness wrote:
That´s why we have been working on doing high quality filming of substance reactions, stay tuned during this summer for more info Very happy

Sounds good

And yes I was talking about Marquis in the first part. So with all these different results (and over what timeframe?), who knows which is correct.

As for the DPT Mandelin, yes those images are in order, with my default mandelin being the yellow at the beginning. So it immediately turns dark brown, then stays brown but after a 20-30 minutes will turn to that bright orange surprisingly.
 
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This database is very relevant and I think should be the primary resource now. Feel free to suggest videos to add!

 
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#30 Posted : 2/19/2016 8:00:58 PM

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Having run into some unusually potent and psychedelic black market cannabis, I decided to do a three-point test on it, given how I have a crapload of it (thanks Lunar Laboratories, haha)...

Marquis: purplish brown
Ehrlich: no reaction
Mandelin: black

Since there seems to be no data on the reactions of cannabis with anything except with Marquis, I'm not sure whether this is normal or not. I know that marijuana being adulterated is almost unheard of, but in my area there is some street talk about people selling low-grade to non-psychoactive bud infused with synthetic cannabinoids. I'm posting it anyway, any insight is welcome.
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extremely interesting guys.
annie loves this kinda stuff.
absolutely excellent!

all those watching the " psilocybin extraction thread"
should certainly see this thread........
"loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
 
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#32 Posted : 2/19/2016 10:58:10 PM

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PsyDuckmonkey, lots of terpenoids give that colour reaction with Marquis. Useful paper attached below (may have got it off nexus in the first place though, can't remember!)
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#33 Posted : 10/29/2017 8:38:01 PM

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Elevation chemicals off eBay is a great source for reagents. I'm pretty sure they shipped usps and it was directly from the USA, somewhere in California. I've personally tested them they worked great, they have good feedback as well and they package everything in vermiculite to help if anything spills. (Which also means they understand accidents happen). Just thought I'd let everyone know. Stay safe guys.
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#34 Posted : 11/4/2017 8:19:58 AM

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It should be noted that these reagents can be made via simple (& safe) chemistry, as the reagents necessary to prepare most drug testing reagents can be bought for a very cheap price over ebay, amazon, and other online chemical supply companies.

Please make sure they come from a reputable supplier, are of the highest purity possible, and contain certificates of analysis from reputable firms. I cannot stress purity of initial reagents, and proper PPE & general chem lab safety methodologies enough when preparing these GodSends. The prices for pre-made reagents over eBay and other sites are too damn high for the minuscule aliquots of premade reagents they give you for such prices. I would like to advocate that people who are educated in simple chemistry and intend to conduct actual research on these compounds, alongside the plants/unknowns which contain them, with colorimetric reagents (& other chromatographic/spectrophotometric/spectrometric/CE-UV/UV/LC/etc. etc. etc. analytical methodologies), prepare their own reagents safely and properly, as this can safe boatloads of funds, liberating them for the much more expensive analytical assays apart from spot testing via these reagents.

It should also be mentioned that ibogaine should be considered a beta carboline derivative. Even though both contain tryptamine/indole structural moieties, it is much more likely that ibogaine may be a biosynthetic beta carboline derivative, as mentioned in this patent on the use of beta carbolines for treating chemical dependency disorders.

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#35 Posted : 11/4/2017 9:52:12 AM

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PsyDuckmonkey wrote:
Having run into some unusually potent and psychedelic black market cannabis, I decided to do a three-point test on it, given how I have a crapload of it (thanks Lunar Laboratories, haha)...

Marquis: purplish brown
Ehrlich: no reaction
Mandelin: black

Since there seems to be no data on the reactions of cannabis with anything except with Marquis, I'm not sure whether this is normal or not. I know that marijuana being adulterated is almost unheard of, but in my area there is some street talk about people selling low-grade to non-psychoactive bud infused with synthetic cannabinoids. I'm posting it anyway, any insight is welcome.


One should do a simple acetone/isopropanol extraction of said cannabis, followed by simple TLC on said crude extraction (I would suggest you take the time to look into eluent solutions which would be best used for separating phytocannabinoids and synthetic cannabinoids, for your purposes), then colorimetric reagent (& possible simple UV-c analysis of TLC plate prior to applying colorimetric reagents) after TLC technique/eluents have been refined for this sample of "cannabis". This would be the best order of analysis (given the average budget of a clandestine kitchen chemist), IMO, for testing to see if your cannabis is indeed laced with synthetic cannabinoids, or not, as using colorimetric reagents on whole plant matter tends to yield unreliable and uninterpretable results.
'"ALAS,"said the mouse, "the world is growing smaller every day. At the
beginning it was so big that I was afraid, I kept running and running, and I was glad
when at last I saw walls far away to the right and left, but these long walls have
narrowed so quickly that I am in the last chamber already, and there in the corner
stands the trap that I must run into." "You only need to change your direction," said
the cat, and ate it up.' --Franz Kafka
 
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#36 Posted : 11/5/2017 12:45:13 AM

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Godsmacker wrote:
ibogaine should be considered a beta carboline derivative.
Do you mean this in terms of how it reacts in reagent tests? Because structurally it's not a betacarboline. Biosynthetically, ibogaine has a terpenoid shrubbery on the 'right-hand side' that carbolines most definitively lack.
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#37 Posted : 11/19/2018 5:21:33 AM

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What a database, it blew my mind, amazing work!
 
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