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I was successfully able to broadcast germinate, but they all died eventually; likely due to excess rains and weeds.
Any fellow travelers been able to successfully propagate/germinate in tropical climates?
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Norsern_vind wrote:I was successfully able to broadcast germinate, but they all died eventually; likely due to excess rains and weeds.
Any fellow travelers been able to successfully propagate/germinate in tropical climates? No just in tropical climates, rue is like that i think, i tried growing it a lot sprouted then they fell over, very few survived and were starting to grow more leaves but i neglected them for a week and they dried and died.. i planted some a few days ago let's see how they do "Is this the end of our adventure? Nothing has an end. We came in search of the secret of immortality, to be like gods, and here we are... mortals, more human than ever. If we have not obtained immortality, at least we have obtained reality. We began in a fairytale and we came to life! But is this life reality? We are images, dreams, photographs. We must not stay here! Prisoners! We shall break the illusion. This is Maya. Goodbye to the holy mountain. Real life awaits us." ~ Alejandro Jodorowsky
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Same experience here. It looked promising and then they just died. Mine were indoors in pots. It's so hard to know how much to water them, given the habitat of the mature plant. Perhaps soil type is a key factor? βThere is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." β Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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I read they grow best in sandy alkaline soil, and you can water them like any other plant i guess but gently so they don't fall.. i was moving them betweem inside and outside and i noticed they really love the sun, they grew best under direct sunlight "Is this the end of our adventure? Nothing has an end. We came in search of the secret of immortality, to be like gods, and here we are... mortals, more human than ever. If we have not obtained immortality, at least we have obtained reality. We began in a fairytale and we came to life! But is this life reality? We are images, dreams, photographs. We must not stay here! Prisoners! We shall break the illusion. This is Maya. Goodbye to the holy mountain. Real life awaits us." ~ Alejandro Jodorowsky
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Yeah they're quite fragil when they're young but you just need to throw a bunch of seeds and keep the survivors. On the other hand they are like phoenix once they are established, they seems to die, become brown and dry but each time (in my case) they sprout back from the stem. In fact the tap root stocks nutriments and water (and harmalas) when (my guess !) in difficult time and grow back when conditions are better. The bad thing in my experience (2 years old specimens) is that they never flower (so no seeds). I suppose it's because i'm under the tropics and they never have cold saison or cold night as in their original habitat to trigger flowering (i could be wrong). « I love the smell of boiling MHRB in the morning »
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Is it true when taking a cutting in hopes of planting there is less chance of them flowering? I have about 250 seeds but am super impatient and would like to speed up the process if possible also intended to use the seeds for a brew  Full disclosure: This account is a form of Role-playing any and all said is for the sake of entertainment value.
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DansMaTete wrote:Yeah they're quite fragil when they're young but you just need to throw a bunch of seeds and keep the survivors.
On the other hand they are like phoenix once they are established, they seems to die, become brown and dry but each time (in my case) they sprout back from the stem. In fact the tap root stocks nutriments and water (and harmalas) when (my guess !) in difficult time and grow back when conditions are better.
The bad thing in my experience (2 years old specimens) is that they never flower (so no seeds). I suppose it's because i'm under the tropics and they never have cold saison or cold night as in their original habitat to trigger flowering (i could be wrong).
Do you fert? Try using a quality hydro solution with a complete mineral profile. Sometimes, having quality nutrients allows plants to overcome certain restrictions. I've experimented with several different species that are not normally found in a teopical climate, and the results were quite amazing.
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anyone willing to try avicenna's method on their rue? the guy single handedly invented modern medicine, perhaps there is something to the legend....
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Weird. I had some seeds laying around so decided to toss some in the dirt. I have zero idea what Im doing here. So they're tough to grow huh?
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avicenna's method? βThere is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." β Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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i've seen the following attributed to avicenna in multiple russian writings many many moons ago, did not bother to research to what degree that'd be plausible. what i was referring to -> Quote:Π‘ΠΌΠΎΠ»Π°: ΠΊΡΡΡ Π³Π°ΡΠΌΠ°Π»Ρ Π² Π½Π°ΡΠ°Π»Π΅ ΠΏΡΠΎΠΈΠ·ΡΠ°ΡΡΠ°Π½ΠΈΡ Π½Π°ΠΊΡΡΠ²Π°ΡΡ ΡΡΠ°ΡΡΠΌ (Ρ ΡΡΠ΅ΡΠΈΠ½Π°ΠΌΠΈ ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ Π΄ΡΡΠ°ΠΌΠΈ) ΠΊΠΎΡΠ»ΠΎΠΌ, ΡΡΠΎΠ±Ρ ΠΏΠΎΡΡΡΠΏΠ°Π» Π²ΠΎΠ·Π΄ΡΡ
. Π Π°ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ ΠΏΡΠΎΠ΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ°Π΅Ρ ΡΠ°ΡΡΠΈ, ΠΈ Π² ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π½Π΅ΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡΠΊΠΈΡ
Π½Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Ρ Π½Π° Π²Π½ΡΡΡΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΈΡ
ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΊΠ°Ρ
ΠΊΠΎΡΠ»Π° ΠΎΠ±ΡΠ°Π·ΡΠ΅ΡΡΡ ΡΠ»ΠΎΠΉ Π»ΠΈΠΏΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΡΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠΎΠ±ΡΠ°Π·Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Π²Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡΠ²Π°, ΠΊΠΎΡΠΎΡΠΎΠ΅ ΡΠΎΡΠΊΠ°Π±Π»ΠΈΠ²Π°ΡΡ Π½ΠΎΠΆΠΎΠΌ. ΠΡΠ° ΡΠΌΠΎΠ»Π° ΡΡΠΈΡΠ°Π΅ΡΡΡ ΡΠ°ΠΌΡΠΌ ΡΡΡΠ΅ΠΊΡΠΈΠ²Π½ΡΠΌ ΡΡΠ΅Π΄ΡΡΠ²ΠΎΠΌ ΠΎΡ Π²ΡΠ΅Ρ
Π½Π΅Π΄ΡΠ³ΠΎΠ². ΠΊΠΎΡΠ»ΠΎΠΌ, ΠΊΠΎΡΠ»Π° -> pot, usually it's referred to as clay pot, but also as iron pot, so perhaps any pot will do. another variation (they are countless, even after cut&pastes are filtered Quote:«ΠΡΡΡ ΠΌΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½ΠΈΠΊΠ° Π²Π΅ΡΠ½ΠΎΠΉ Π·Π°ΠΊΡΡΠ²Π°ΡΡ ΡΡΠ°ΡΡΠΌ, ΠΏΠΎΠ±ΠΈΡΡΠΌ Ρ ΡΡΠ΅ΡΠΈΠ½Π°ΠΌΠΈ ΠΈ Π΄ΡΡΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ, ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½ΠΎΠΌ, ΡΡΠΎΠ±Ρ ΠΏΠΎΡΡΡΠΏΠ°Π» Π²ΠΎΠ·Π΄ΡΡ
. ΠΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½ΠΈΠΊ ΡΠ°ΡΡΠ΅Ρ ΠΈ Π² ΡΠ΅ΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π½Π΅ΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡΠΊΠΈΡ
Π½Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Ρ ΠΈΠ· Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π²ΡΠ΄Π΅Π»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π½Π° ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΊΠ°Ρ
ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½Π° ΠΎΠ±ΡΠ°Π·ΡΠ΅ΡΡΡ ΡΠ»ΠΎΠΉ Π»ΠΈΠΏΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΡΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠΎΠ±ΡΠ°Π·Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ Π²Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡΠ²Π°, ΠΊΠΎΡΠΎΡΠΎΠ΅ ΡΠΎΡΠΊΠ°Π±Π»ΠΈΠ²Π°ΡΡ Π½ΠΎΠΆΠΎΠΌ. ΠΡΠΎ βΠ²Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡΠ²ΠΎβ ΡΡΠΈΡΠ°Π΅ΡΡΡ ΡΠ°ΠΌΡΠΌ ΡΡΡΠ΅ΠΊΡΠΈΠ²Π½ΡΠΌ Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°ΡΡΡΠ²ΠΎΠΌ, ΠΊΠΎΡΠΎΡΠΎΠ΅ Π»Π΅ΡΠΈΡ ΠΎΡ Π²ΡΠ΅Ρ
Π½Π΅Π΄ΡΠ³ΠΎΠ². ΠΠΎΠ½Π΅ΡΠ½ΠΎ, ΡΡΡΠ΄Π½ΠΎ ΡΠ΅Π±Π΅ ΠΏΡΠ΅Π΄ΡΡΠ°Π²ΠΈΡΡ ΡΠ°ΠΊΠΎΠ΅ Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°ΡΡΡΠ²ΠΎ ΠΎΡ Π²ΡΠ΅Ρ
Π±ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π·Π½Π΅ΠΉ, Π½ΠΎ ΠΈ Π·Π΄Π΅ΡΡ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ Π±ΡΡΡ Π·Π΅ΡΠ½ΠΎ ΠΌΡΠ΄ΡΠΎΡΡΠΈ. ΠΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½ΠΈΠΊ ΠΎΠ±Π»Π°Π΄Π°Π΅Ρ ΠΎΠ³ΡΠΎΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠΉ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΠΉ ΡΠΈΠ»ΠΎΠΉ, ΠΎΠ½ ΡΠ°ΡΡΠ΅Ρ Π½Π° ΡΠ°ΠΊΠΈΡ
ΠΌΠ΅ΡΡΠ°Ρ
, Π³Π΄Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ΡΠ°Ρ Π΄ΡΡΠ³ΠΎΠ΅ ΡΠ°ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ ΡΡΡΠ΅ΡΡΠ²ΠΎΠ²Π°ΡΡ Π½Π΅ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ, ΠΈ Π²ΠΎΡ ΡΡΠΎΡ Π²Π΅Π»ΠΈΠΊΠΎΠ»Π΅ΠΏΠ½ΡΠΉ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½Π΅Π½Π½ΡΠΉ Π΄ΡΡ
ΡΠ°ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡ ΠΎΡΠ°ΠΆΠ΄Π°Π΅ΡΡΡ Π½Π° ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΊΠ°Ρ
ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½Π°. ΠΠΎΠ»Π΅Π·Π½ΠΈ ΡΠ°ΡΡΠΎ ΠΏΡΠΎΠΈΡΡ
ΠΎΠ΄ΡΡ ΠΎΡ ΡΠ»Π°Π±ΠΎΡΡΠΈ, ΠΏΠΎΡΠ΅ΡΠΈ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½Π΅Π½Π½ΡΡ
ΡΠΈΠ», Π° ΡΠ°ΠΊΠΎΠ΅ Π²Π΅ΡΠ΅ΡΡΠ²ΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ Π²Π΄ΠΎΡ
Π½ΡΡΡ Π² ΡΠ΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊΠ° Π½ΠΎΠ²ΡΡ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½Ρ, Π½Π°ΡΡΠΈΡΡ Π΅Π³ΠΎ, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΡΡΠΎΡΡΡ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ ΠΏΠ°Π»ΡΡΠΈΠΌ Π·Π½ΠΎΠ΅ΠΌ, ΠΈ ΠΎΠΏΡΠΎΠΊΠΈΠ΄ΡΠ²Π°ΡΡΠΈΠΌ Π²Π΅ΡΡΠΎΠΌ Π² Π½Π°ΡΠ΅ΠΉ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½ΠΈ. ΠΡΠΎ ΡΡΠ΄Π΅ΡΠ½Π°Ρ ΡΡΠ±ΡΡΠ°Π½ΡΠΈΡ ΠΈ ΡΠΏΠΎΡΠΎΠ± Π΅Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡΡΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡ, Π²Π΅ΡΠΎΡΡΠ½ΠΎ, ΠΏΡΠΈΠ΄ΡΠΌΠ°Π½ ΡΡΠ΅Π΄Π½Π΅Π²Π΅ΠΊΠΎΠ²ΡΠΌΠΈ Π°ΡΠ°Π±ΡΠΊΠΈΠΌΠΈ Π°Π»Ρ
ΠΈΠΌΠΈΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ».
ΠΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½ΠΈΠΊ -> rue, literally "on graves", because supposedly grows in abundance in graveyards, anybody verified that? ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½ΠΎΠΌ, ΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π½Π° -> pot, cauldron. btw in the russian language space many people are growing rue and quite successfully at that. just a quick search using google translate turned up the following (among many many other hits). i am a "black fingers" myself, as opposed to "green fingers"  and a pretty skilled one at that, so i have not tried growing rue.
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First signs of life  I'm not really sure what to do now. Asher7 attached the following image(s):  0523171822e.jpg (1,169kb) downloaded 67 time(s). 0523171822b.jpg (1,172kb) downloaded 67 time(s).
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Asher7 wrote:Weird. I had some seeds laying around so decided to toss some in the dirt. I have zero idea what Im doing here. So they're tough to grow huh?
Not necessarily hard to germinate, but very low germination rate in most cases, and picky with regards to care. I recently dropped about 2oz of seed into starter cups, and only about 10% or less have germinated thus far. If you're having problems with germination, try using a bit of seed, broadcasted over the soil surface. Water from the top only, enough to saturate the upper layer of growing medium. Ensure it is in direct sunlight and extremely warm, if not hot. Within a few days, they should germinate.
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The germination rate turned out pretty good. Are you sure you want these guys in direct sunlight with high temps? I had no idea they would start out this small, I would think high heat and direct sunlight would fry them until they got pretty well established.
I just germinated them on my kitchen counter and roughly three days later all but two have popped up. I would think ideally a shop "clamp lamp" with a flourescent in it would be of great benefit but unfortunatly I don't have one anymore. Luckily it's been raining so it's overcast and I've had them on a window sill. So far so good, but it's still way too early in the game for any kind of certainty. I think I used the wrong kind of soil too, I used my leftover cacti mix. We'll see.
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Asher7 wrote:The germination rate turned out pretty good. Are you sure you want these guys in direct sunlight with high temps? I had no idea they would start out this small, I would think high heat and direct sunlight would fry them until they got pretty well established.
I just germinated them on my kitchen counter and roughly three days later all but two have popped up. I would think ideally a shop "clamp lamp" with a flourescent in it would be of great benefit but unfortunatly I don't have one anymore. Luckily it's been raining so it's overcast and I've had them on a window sill. So far so good, but it's still way too early in the game for any kind of certainty. I think I used the wrong kind of soil too, I used my leftover cacti mix. We'll see. I'm not sure if its because of the both relative humidity, but broadcasting in direct susun always seems to work best for me and has a high germination rate. I do know that, for me, any shade has been detrimental, as well as any heavy rains.
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Do you have any pics of your rue seedlings? I'm not sure what I'm growing over here is even rue.
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Asher7 wrote:Do you have any pics of your rue seedlings? I'm not sure what I'm growing over here is even rue. Norsern_vind attached the following image(s): 20170602_013747.jpg (3,975kb) downloaded 29 time(s).
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Yeah see that looks like what should be growing, this is what I'm coming up with. A pic of the seeds too, the seeds look right unless they're some subspecies or something. I really don't know. Asher7 attached the following image(s): 1496445529657.jpg (1,414kb) downloaded 21 time(s). 1496445639285.jpg (1,171kb) downloaded 18 time(s).
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yours are definitely syrian rue Asher7 but yeah they look a bit different, quite long, it's amazing that they are not falling of.. did you get them from inside USA? cz rue was introduced to USA in 1928 so maybe that's how it is there.. "Is this the end of our adventure? Nothing has an end. We came in search of the secret of immortality, to be like gods, and here we are... mortals, more human than ever. If we have not obtained immortality, at least we have obtained reality. We began in a fairytale and we came to life! But is this life reality? We are images, dreams, photographs. We must not stay here! Prisoners! We shall break the illusion. This is Maya. Goodbye to the holy mountain. Real life awaits us." ~ Alejandro Jodorowsky
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