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#21 Posted : 4/17/2017 8:14:29 AM

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Thanks Dreamer!

So, Coca and Achuma! Now that sounds interestingBig grin
 

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#22 Posted : 7/3/2017 2:30:58 PM

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The taste is sweet and Nice. I did mix 1:10 ratio bicarbonate sodium to coca flour. Let this to dry ( and flour gets darker and browner as freebasing occupes ).
Pulled90° ethanol, for 2 weeks although I might run shorter and pull again to see what's left. Find this neat to dose. And actually surprisingly yummy. Coca alcaloids are normally ok to use with Aya, used the traditional way ( I dont think cocaïne isolate is, and especially considering the concentration of adulterants in it ), but here, you have to consider the alcohol content and also the possible coca ethylene formation during this process. Which might not be same as simply chewing coca and base or coca tea.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !
 
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#23 Posted : 7/4/2017 3:55:37 AM

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Hi rOm,

yes, I quite like the taste as well... I also tried extracting using this method. I used a bit more baking soda to leaf ratio than you did. I found also that it's nice to dose, but I didn't really see any difference in strength, or effect, than pulling into ethanol and then adding baking soda to it when you dose. Its a lot more work basing it first, then drying and then pulling with alcohol. I did though extract 25 grams of powdered leaf this way and then evaporate all the alcohol off, which left a green residue which can be scraped up with a blade and added to a herb of your choice with some quite interesting effects ... I used some cannabis and got a really clean, clear high along with a super boost in sexual functioning, if you get my drift! Thumbs up

 
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#24 Posted : 7/4/2017 10:14:38 AM

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Hello flowersniffer, So you mean you smoked the evaporate tar onto some plant carrier ? I only used it oral but would try mix with little water for subling it.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !
 
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#25 Posted : 7/4/2017 11:38:06 AM

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I put it into a joint, yes. I never thought about doing it sublingual as I assumed that it would be the same as taking the tincture as a mouth wash with bicarb ... But, of course there would be no alcohol, so maybe the effect would be different... I guess that you could also snort it, which I haven't tried ...

I left the evaporate on the plate and it's now damp, will have to dry it out before further use ...

Am still to try it with DMT Smile
 
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#26 Posted : 3/21/2018 8:33:03 AM

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Been looking at this recently having acquired a pile of coca leaf. I can't seem to find a tek (that I trust) online.

I'm unsure on the pulling of the alcohol from the leaf and the %'s.

I'm uneasy to use my BP grade ethanol for anything that I may consume (smells scary, I've never put that in my mouth before), is high % vodka or similar suitable for making tinctures? Or do I really need to be heading up above %50 alcohol volume to get a good extract?

Is it as simple as just letting the dried leaf sit in the solution for some time and pulling/pouring it off, then evaporating it down?

Does fresh leaf offer any advantages, rather than drying it?
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#27 Posted : 3/21/2018 8:47:36 AM

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FWIW, I created a basic tincture of LSD simply by dissolving the tab in a 10mL bottle of dirty cheap Smirnoff for 2 days. I then was able to measure out exact microdoses with a 10mL syringe. I know you'll probably want bigger doses than that, but I assume the same principle should apply in terms of extraction.
 
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#28 Posted : 3/21/2018 5:47:43 PM

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Northerner wrote:
Is it as simple as just letting the dried leaf sit in the solution for some time and pulling/pouring it off, then evaporating it down?

In principle, yes. And even if soaking in whatever vodka you can muster doesn't turn out, nothing is lost. The leaves can be soaked in high proof spirit afterwards and the two extracts combined.



Coca leaf is surprisingly nice. Unsurprisingly Big grin
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#29 Posted : 3/21/2018 5:58:16 PM

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Coca leaf is surprisingly nice. Unsurprisingly Big grin


I agree. Really enjoyed it the time's that I've done it with sod bicarb, just a pinch with 2-3g stack of leaves. Felt really soft though clearly energizing, and the feeling of my breathing most definitely changed, the easinsss of breath and breathing. I was outside when I'd done it all those times and it was great, especially while hiking. Cool

A high proof alco/tinc extract would be interesting though for sure.
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#30 Posted : 3/21/2018 10:23:27 PM

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A high proof alco/tinc extract would be interesting though for sure.

Indeed it would. Sadly, my coca plants failed to survive the northern European winter. Also unsurprisingly Sad


And, yeah, that thing with the breathing. No wonder it's good for the mountains.
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#32 Posted : 3/22/2018 3:02:31 PM

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Northerner wrote:


I'm uneasy to use my BP grade ethanol for anything that I may consume (smells scary, I've never put that in my mouth before), is high % vodka or similar suitable for making tinctures? Or do I really need to be heading up above %50 alcohol volume to get a good extract?


Is Everclear or other grain spirits available in your area? In Oregon,you can buy 190 proof at the state-run liquor stores pretty by the pint pretty cheap.
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#33 Posted : 3/22/2018 10:27:19 PM

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null24 wrote:
Northerner wrote:


I'm uneasy to use my BP grade ethanol for anything that I may consume (smells scary, I've never put that in my mouth before), is high % vodka or similar suitable for making tinctures? Or do I really need to be heading up above %50 alcohol volume to get a good extract?


Is Everclear or other grain spirits available in your area? In Oregon,you can buy 190 proof at the state-run liquor stores pretty by the pint pretty cheap.

Nah, I'm in Australia, the tax on drinking alcohol is is ridiculous. Spirytus is the same potency at 95%, but something like $150 a litre. I can get 2 litres of %96 raw pharma BP grade ethanol for about $50. I just seriously never considered putting it in my mouth. I doubt there is any real difference between that and the Spirytus, maybe a little less toxic if anything. Laughing

My thinking is that pharmaceutical grade is purer than food grade, but still "safe" for consumption.
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#34 Posted : 3/23/2018 4:39:07 AM

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Are you talking about this stuff? https://d3r2zleywq7959.c...5/7/574155_xlarge_1.jpg

I asked my local pharmacist and he was pretty unsure, but said it's probably got stuff added into it to make it undrinkable. He wasn't much help aside from that.
 
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#35 Posted : 3/23/2018 5:20:58 AM

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No not iso, that is poisonous. This is the product I have,

http://www.davidcraig.ne...nts/ethanol-96-bp/1239/

I don't think it's denatured, otherwise it wouldn't be able to get the BP certification.
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#36 Posted : 4/30/2018 11:47:58 PM

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SWIM made a coca wine once and recommended it highly. Hoping I get to try some one day myself. Seems like coca is much stronger when extracted into alcohol in comparison to water.
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