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Does anyone with some spare bufo & tar care to experiment? Options
 
SuperRad
#1 Posted : 9/21/2009 3:48:25 AM
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I would do this myself, but I feel as my current Cebil batch will not yield enough for experiments.

Basically, if anyone has high-purity bufotenine, and the fully-expended black goop it was separated from, I think it would be worth it to conduct these experiments:

Take bufo freebase and goop-freebase and place in two separate containers. Cover both with water. Dissolve citric-acid soaked water dropwise until both substances become fully soluble in the water. Record the masses and volumes, and hopefully we should be able to calculate the pH at which bufo and the goop salt and become soluble in water. Ideally these figures would be different enough so that we could use pH to separate them.

Then take your two solutions of salted bufo and goop, and add lye or sodium carbonate soaked water dropwise until the water insoluble freebases crash out. Likewise record the amounts used, and hopefully we will find that one substance crashes out earlier, and that this could also be a separation method.
 

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soulfood
#2 Posted : 9/21/2009 4:09:22 AM

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I think the two substances are very similar in this respect, but I haven't had a look for myself.

Doing an extract at the moment so if I get pure results I will try this for sure.

 
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#3 Posted : 9/21/2009 10:02:19 PM
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It does seem as if they base and salt at similar concentrations, but even if we can get something like 30% of the goop to crash out before any significantg % of the bufotenine does, then the process can just be repeated several times, and then the ~90% pure bufo can be boil-purified just once with a VERY satisfactory result.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/22/2009 8:15:50 AM

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It would be nice Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 11/27/2009 11:23:41 AM

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I'm bumping this thread because it struck my curiosity.
Has anyone come to a conclusion regarding the above matter yet?
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#6 Posted : 11/30/2009 2:42:38 PM

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Unfortunaly, goop bufo does not dissolve that well in aciditic water (if not at all).
That makes that experimentation quite tedious.
 
 
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