I been seeing this Terence Mckenna quote around on the greater interwebs, but I have no idea where they sourced it from. I don't recall Terence really mentioning DMT dosage much, if ever, and a google search didn't turn up much. I was wondering if eg or anyone else can source this quote for me?

DMT is a reliable method for crossing into a dimension that human beings have debated the existence of for 50,000 years. Is there an invisible, nearby world inhabited by active intelligences with which human beings can communicate? You bet your boots there is. And if you don’t think so, then tell me you don’t think so and you’ve smoked 70 milligrams of DMT. Otherwise we just don’t have anything to talk about. -terence McKenna

Well, you know, the dolphins were very fortunate in that they evolved in an environment which is extremely unfriendly to fire! Fire leaves you to do reckless and crazy things – the smelting of metals is the basic thing. Yes, I’ve been the champion of mushroom intelligence; there are many minds congruent with our inhabiting of this planet: the dolphin mind, the octopus mind, these plants which talk to you! I mean, I know if you’ve never had a plant talk to you that sounds as silly as saying that someone’s channelling the history of Atlantis; but once you’ve had a plant talk to you, you realise, yes, they do; it’s a problem to figure out how this happens, but that it happens is no big deal. Above 20 mg of psilocybin, most people report voices with interesting things to say. Above 75 mg of DMT, in Strassman’s experiments, most people reported entities of some sort. Well, it’s easy to dismiss it and say, “Well, this is a hallucination” – but what is a hallucination, my friend?

-terence mckenna
Culture and Ideology are Not Your Friends
Presented at the Whole Life Expo, Denver, April 1999

Or that's just because Terence didn't have a GVG?

Thanks eg!

That second one is a bit curious as well since Strassman did all his measurements in mg/kg and iirc he didn't get anywhere near 75 mg. The couple of doods he went up to .6 mg/kg had a blackout? In a 150 lb person thats still only 40 mg. At the .4 mg/kg he settled on, for 150 lb person comes out to about 27 mg. Weird.

Anyway thanks again for tracking that down, I knew you were the person to ask.


Yep those "little glass pipes" just don't do the thing nearly as well as the true spicecraft.

Both the McKenna quotes I referenced seemed odd to me as well, I did not know them from memory, and had to search to find a source...

I think it’s a place that you approach by different strategies because a high dose of psilocybin will eventually put you into a place where you have to say, ‘my god, I can’t tell it from a DMT flash.’ A high dose of ayahuasca will eventually carry you exactly to the same place. The difference is that with the DMT, the only way you can evade the DMT is mechanically. That means only if you take too small a toke will it fail. If you can take a big enough toke, it will deliver the goods. While with the psilocybin mushrooms and with the ayahuasca, you have to be a navigator. You have to know how to tack, breath, descend, level and maybe a little mantric flash and dash – it’s trickier. But with the DMT, by god, it has you if you get enough of it -Terence McKenna

Damn, you really know every TM quote from memory?

I frequently consume over 75mgs.

Something is off, if this is the case.

See here, including its link to here.

I'm sorry to keep harping on this, but the horse is not dead yet.
DMT tolerance/dosage seems to be all over the place. There is a bell curve as with many things but it's a wide bell curve with DMT. I have administered or supervised DMT voyages of many people and the middle of the bell curve seems to be around 40mg to hyperspace. I have seen breakthrough doses as low as 20mg and failure to break through at 200+mg. My own breakthrough dosage is 50mg +/-5mg.

We are all unique and there is no magic number that's going to work for everyone.

Totally off topic, but it's my thread and I'll do wut I want!

And since I already called eg out for this one...

Here's some Terence porn I thought you would appreciate.