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Is this Acacia Acuminata Options
 
Bloobloo
#1 Posted : 2/25/2017 6:17:31 PM
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Hi I live in California and came across this plant and want to make sure this is indeed Acacia Acuminata.


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Edit: Do you guys see the pictures? If not, I apologize for the shitty post
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#2 Posted : 2/25/2017 7:11:14 PM

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If that's an acuminata then it has unusually broad phyllodes for the species. But I'm no expert.




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#3 Posted : 2/25/2017 7:34:34 PM
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I agree, the phyllodes look unusually broad...

Here's some pictures for comparison.

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#4 Posted : 2/25/2017 7:42:42 PM
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It looks more like Acacia longifolia.

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#5 Posted : 2/25/2017 8:02:07 PM
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Is Acacia Longfolia a reliable source for clothing dye?

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#6 Posted : 2/25/2017 11:46:33 PM

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Most acacias are viable sources of tannins for brown dyes, or black if mordanted with iron or copper. But I have a feeling that's not what you're saying.

Look at the forum index, you'll see there's an acacia information/identification thread or two, stickied.

Sorry I'm not feeling like putting links in at this moment! EDIT: You're in luck, you can probably post here!


eg - I thought it looked more like a longifolia as well but close ups of all the botanical features would help towards a more positive identification.




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Bloobloo
#7 Posted : 2/26/2017 3:21:16 AM
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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Most acacias are viable sources of tannins for brown dyes, or black if mordanted with iron or copper. But I have a feeling that's not what you're saying.

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Not bad, touche man.



But yeah, I just realized I have a bunch of these growing around my area. I saw one earlier that had thinner leaves, which I'm guessing is Acuminata?

Another had more cylindrical flowers


And thanks for the link, Ill be posting
 
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#8 Posted : 2/26/2017 11:56:37 AM
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https://keyserver.lucidc...ia_subsp._longifolia.htm
This link describes A. longifolia
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Sydney golden wattle (Acacia longifolia subsp. longifolia) and has also become naturalised in southern Africa, New Zealand, Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Indonesia, Israel, Spain, Portugal, Mauritius and in California in the USA.
https://keyserver.lucidc...ia_subsp._longifolia.htm


I've browsed through acacia species known to be cultivated in California, and acacia longifolia seems like it's the most likely, but I can't say anything for sure...better pictures of the phyllodes, flowers, and branches would help.

Again, I am just offering suggestions, not identifications.

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#9 Posted : 2/26/2017 8:24:32 PM
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Here are a few pics from another tree close by, it seems these phyllodes are thinner



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#10 Posted : 2/26/2017 9:17:30 PM

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its acacia longifolia.. 1st photo looks like subs. sophorae
 
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#11 Posted : 3/1/2017 2:47:24 PM
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General Plant Info
Acacia longifolia is a species of Acacia native to southeastern Australia, from the extreme southeast of Queensland, eastern New South Wales, eastern and southern Victoria, and southeastern South Australia. Common names for it include Long-leaved wattle, Acacia Trinervis, Aroma Doble, Golden Wattle, Coast Wattle, Sallow Wattle and Sydney Golden Wattle. It is not listed as being a threatened species,and is considered invasive in Portugal and South Africa.It is a tree that grows very quickly reaching 7–10 m in five to six years.

Consists of 3 subspecies:
Acacia longifolia subsp. longifolia
Acacia longifolia subsp. sophorae
Acacia longifolia subsp. sophorae x oxycedrus


Identification
Phyllodes are 50-250 mm long and 10-35 mm wide and each face has 2-4 prominent longitudinal veins. 2-10 mm from the base of the phyllode is one small gland. The yellow flower heads are cylindric in shape, 20-50 mm in length and occur in pairs or singly in the phyllode axils. The seed pods are 50-150 mm long and 3-10 mm wide, thick and usually straight to slightly curved. The seed are brown-black and shiny. 4-10 seeds per pod.


Alkaloid content
0.2% tryptamine in bark, leaves, some in flowers, phenylethylamine in flowers[1][2] DMT in plant (Lyceaum), but trout claims reports are in error due to methodology. Daniel Siebert found trace amounts of DMT in aerial parts in CA but did not publish information[3]
Var sophorae: 0.6%DMT,5meoDMT,Tryptamine,Bufotenine,Gramine ,Cinnamoylhistamine, n-dec-3enoylhistamine[4], some strains very little alkaloids
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Acacia_longifolia


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