After many DMT trips, SWIM has started analyzing the info. Would you agree or not? Is your experience similar? I'm not claiming expertise, I just want to write down my thoughts. The purpose of this post is to write this down so I can stop thinking about it so much.

Noticing basically 4 levels in order:
1. Interesting visuals. Lights will start dancing, walls and ceilings move - sometimes they give the impression of breathing. Still very much aware of surroundings. Communication is not hindered. Fear of the next steps sets in. Another hit...

2. Fun House stage. SWIM gets a clown like (very friendly) figure that controls the first house. I've named him the gatekeeper due to what happens with #3. Geometrical patterns take over. Reason and logic disappear. The laws of physics evaporate. It does not matter if your eyes are open or closed, the world has been replaced with one that makes no sense. Communication is difficult, but possible. This is really amazing and fascinating and fun. It's REALLY hard to take another hit from here. *He* will usually put on a great show if you kick back and relax now. There is at minimum 1 being here, SWIM has felt the presence of more but has not communicated with them or seen them.

3. The gate. The gatekeeper appears, he will communicate. This is typically very frustrating conversation as the realization that you should have smoked more or less sets in. Friendly area, but there is nothing to be gained here. I'm pretty sure this is in another dimension. I've been given permission to regain control of my body to take another hit while here. If it's difficult for you to truly let go of your body, I don't know how a person gets through this gate. The gatekeeper will tease or play with your mind when you get stuck here. "Here's the gate, you know you are on the wrong side, right?" Or "The other side is awesome, want to peek?" Then he will crack a door and light will blast out, making this a seriously disappointing trip. Communication in the earth world is not really possible. For me, this gate is made of metal doors - like the exit to a big movie theater. Its like 8 or 10 doors all next to each other and they are shut. There is no way to open them, they have to be opened for you.

4. The afterlife. Blastoff. Ego death. SWIM has only gotten here twice. There is no awareness of #1, you cruise through #2 at 5,000 miles per hour, the gates at #3 blow open and as you cross through, your body is checked at the gate. I can't describe how amazing this is. Both times have been different but life changing. The beings here are different, the gatekeeper isn't here. These are beings made of light, in "buildings" made of light. You could be dissected and put back together (or not). Time becomes a rule that can be broken. A discussion was had with multiple beings, speaking telepathically, analyzing my life. Permission is granted or revoked for decisions I've made. My life is viewed from a 3rd party perspective and without judgment - by me too (I think my soul is giving it's own feedback to me, I now feel more like one aspect rather than the same thing as my soul). My life feels like it's someone else's as I view it. Death is explained. The concept of life on earth becomes foreign. This new place is made of love. It's held together by love. This may be what some people call heaven? I'm unaware of breathing, I'm not aware of even being alive. My life ceases to even be important. My soul is all that's left of what used to be me. After conversations and realizations, I'm told I need to leave. I'm escorted out slowly. The last time **I actually took an escalator down** to leave and everything slowly faded away. I see why people are searching. Knowledge is infinite here. All answers of god and religion appear to be here. Realizing your soul *is* something you can become aware of??? What????

Every time the first hit of DMT kicks in now, so does fear. Supreme power is out there. Am I worthy to go back there? Have I made enough positive life changes? Am I prepared to be shown things I'm not prepared to see?

Going back to #1 is nothing. Going to #2, sure! The problem with #2 is you are acutely aware that you are only 1 more big hit away from god. Now the gatekeeper says "Check out all this cool stuff! By the way, if you take another hit I'll take you back to the other place. Are you sure you want to stay here???" Going back to #3 is wasted DMT. I've ended up here multiple times, either go all the way or measure enough for the funhouse at #2.

I quit smoking cigarettes after my first breakthrough. I'm trying to learn and respect my soul after the 2nd. I'm researching a lot more now. I learned so much, but I'm left with even more questions. Sadly, I think a lot of the answers are available with death. I want to live as long as I can, which means I will have to wait to learn.

Thank you for this report. You certainly have another view on DMT than me.

Why are you inventing all these levels? I cannot understand you say things like ‘Going back to #1 is nothing’ or ‘Going back to #3 is wasted DMT’. Are you serious?

When I started smoking DMT I became aware that almost all folks are talking about CEV ’s, sub break throughs and break throughs. Apparently everyone (including me the first year) considers it important to categorize trip stages.

I have left this behind. Not important at all. CEV ’s can be as impressive as sub break throughs etc. Just enjoy the ride and take every experience for granted. Anyway, that’s my two cents.

I agree with strtman, I have gotten a lot of benefit from sub-breakthroughs. Especially when I have used it during daily living to give a uniqueness of character to my everyday reality. Maybe you should explore with that a little bit, it might help you integrate the larger doses you do.

I also like the idea that you saw the DMT realm as heaven or god. Virtually no one has any idea what they mean when they speak of "god" or "heaven" because they don't know how to paint a picture of it. What it lacks though is certainty of its existence after you die, aka how do u know u will go back to the DMT realm after death? and are you sure of that? because that is how heaven is defined by its definition which Christianity gave it.

I'm just noticing levels is all. I REALLY like the visuals (#1 for me). I think nothing of going there, it's great, I love it! I think my reference point is fear, or lack of fear for this stage. On the flip side, when I hit the gate, nothing happens for me. It's like going to Disney world but not going in, or to a movie and buying popcorn but standing outside the movie the whole time. I just haven't gained anything but disappointment here, but it sure is a WEIRD place to be stuck.

N0thing,

Thanks for the response. I certainly feel like I am benefitting. Honestly, I get very scared before going for a big dose. I feel like I'm risking my life/sanity. I believe I could potentially be shown something that could permanently damage me (although only good experiences so far).

The religious side of this is fascinating. I would have considered myself an atheist for many years. Now, not so much. This place is real. My soul is real. I believe it to my core now. Obviously I can't prove this is where we go when we die, but meditate and ask, then go visit again. Do you really believe this is an elaborate hallucination your brain came up with in response to a chemical? Maybe, but I just don't think so. I've found a religion that is built on love, absent the corruption of man. I've seen my soul. Religion is built on faith. I can have faith in this one...

The funny thing about different levels of the DMT experience is that after someone reaches their first breakthrough, there is always the possibility and likelihood that they can and will travel further than that, smashing all preconceived notions of their last breakthrough; this is what I refer to as the breakthrough's breakthrough, if you will.

I tried to outline the levels myself in this thread a while back but as seen in that discussion, it is difficult to do so:



Of course, writing down and trying to describe the levels, if nothing else, helped me try to come to terms with and integrate the experiences I was/am having. It is also nice to see someone else's description of it for comparing and contrasting.

Have a good one!

That paints quite the picture Sublimer. I'm glad you posted that as it's a reminder for me to not get lax in my thinking of how profound this dmt might be once I try it.

In regards to explaination of what you guys experience and how words fail, remember it's never too late to get some paint and a brush to capture an image of it. People love to say they can't draw or paint but that's just because they're trying to paint like other people. There are no rules.

You are correct in your realization of the Soul. Do not forget these lessons.

Thank you for linking to that thread!!! I was laughing pretty hard when it goes to level 9... So true! Reading that one made my night.