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Psychedelic Energy
#1 Posted : 10/18/2016 12:04:16 PM

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Hi everyone, I'm going to be doing a DMT extraction soon and was wondering what kind vessel you extract your DMT in?
I am planning on getting some lab glass flasks with ground glass stoppers, does anyone else use this glass?
I'm just not sure things like mason jar lids, metal lids, plastic or rubber are good for such harsh chemicals.....

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#2 Posted : 10/18/2016 12:41:43 PM

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Hi Psychedelic Energy and welcome to the Nexus !!

Personally i found this kind of bottles ideal for my extractions:
http://www.simax.com/fota/shopub/167-1.jpg

Cheap , many sizes, made of borosilicate glass and easy to useThumbs up

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#3 Posted : 10/18/2016 1:54:35 PM

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Psychedelic Energy wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm going to be doing a DMT extraction soon and was wondering what kind vessel you extract your DMT in?
I am planning on getting some lab glass flasks with ground glass stoppers, does anyone else use this glass?
I'm just not sure things like mason jar lids, metal lids, plastic or rubber are good for such harsh chemicals.....

Thanks guys

I US HDPE plastic Veniger or milk gallon jugs for 300-400g extractions and Pyrex baking dishes for my FASA salting and crystalization. Don't own to many lab stuff other than pH meter most my stuff is bought localy
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#4 Posted : 10/20/2016 12:16:41 PM

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Thanks for the replies guy. I have decided to get some glass lab bottles with chemically resistant lids.
I know lots of people use those HDPE bottles, but I'd just prefer not to use that plastic.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/20/2016 12:19:12 PM

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HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times.

wine bottle and a cork works well for lots of people
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#6 Posted : 10/20/2016 4:49:02 PM

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You can go with most stuff you find if you just check it.

Most common mishaps are.

Acetone/Naptha attack plastics. Use glass instead with PTFE as lid.

Hot solutions of NaOH and KOH attack glass and Metals especiall aluminium. Make sure to keep the temperature of them low and use borosilicate.

Citric acid and vinegar dissolve most metals readily and will from salts in solution. Keep untreated metals like pure iron and aluminum away from them.


You can always use the container you solvent is purchased in! These are often the best option when there is no proper labware in place.

Here is a big chart to chemical restiance. But dont forget that heat will kill all plastics after some time Very happy
 
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#7 Posted : 10/20/2016 7:10:55 PM

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3rdI wrote:
HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times...
Yeppers.

EDIT: oops Ulim beat me with an even bigger chart Rolling eyes
Consider it a brain wash echo attempt Big grin
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#8 Posted : 10/20/2016 11:03:21 PM

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Jees wrote:
3rdI wrote:
HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times...
Yeppers.

EDIT: oops Ulim beat me with an even bigger chart Rolling eyes
Consider it a brain wash echo attempt Big grin

What do the letters even mean in your chart? Confused
 
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#9 Posted : 10/21/2016 2:44:44 AM

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#10 Posted : 10/21/2016 5:38:05 AM

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Thank you benzyme.
I never took much notice of the letters actually, the colors were as much telling.
But I guess they included a solution for the color blind people.
 
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#11 Posted : 10/23/2016 12:25:49 PM

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I found one with cork in it at the top as per the request of another nexian. Works fabulously and no more having to worry about plastics or screwing/flipping lids.

I make sure the solution is of a thin viscosity to avoid emulsion and shake the hell out of it, or just pour in to another container a few times.



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#12 Posted : 10/23/2016 11:22:47 PM

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I am just now beginning my journey here at the nexus and was having the same question as I gather materials seeing what works for everyone else sure is helping a lot thank you so much every one
 
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I am just now beginning my journey here at the nexus and was having the same question as I gather materials seeing what works for everyone else sure is helping a lot thank you so much every one


Be sure to look through the FAQ as there is a lot of immensely useful information to be had there too:

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#14 Posted : 10/24/2016 5:22:56 AM

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Ulim wrote:
Jees wrote:
3rdI wrote:
HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times...
Yeppers.

EDIT: oops Ulim beat me with an even bigger chart Rolling eyes
Consider it a brain wash echo attempt Big grin

What do the letters even mean in your chart? Confused

I've used HpDE plascic jugs for Xylenes stb a dozen times never a problem. A glass jug full of lye scares me way more. Had a glass jar explode and splatter lye soup all over me and half my kitchen took hours to clean Han had to pour a liter of vinegar over me. I've seen solvents warp HDPE wen stored for a week or more but for a couple hours to make a few pulls I've never noticed any problems.
Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. REVELATIONS 22:1-2(Holy Bible)
 
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#15 Posted : 10/24/2016 7:35:18 AM

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Drowning-man wrote:
Ulim wrote:
Jees wrote:
3rdI wrote:
HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times...
Yeppers.

EDIT: oops Ulim beat me with an even bigger chart Rolling eyes
Consider it a brain wash echo attempt Big grin

What do the letters even mean in your chart? Confused

I've used HpDE plascic jugs for Xylenes stb a dozen times never a problem. A glass jug full of lye scares me way more. Had a glass jar explode and splatter lye soup all over me and half my kitchen took hours to clean Han had to pour a liter of vinegar over me. I've seen solvents warp HDPE wen stored for a week or more but for a couple hours to make a few pulls I've never noticed any problems.


The reaction between HDPE and the solvent is immediate but also a gradual process, if i'm not mistaken. So any amount of exposure is going to leach into your solvent. And even if it may not feel like it's a problem, it might be later down the line if you continue using HPDE. Bioaccumulation is a thing. But then again, this is all down to technique (re-x, mini-A/B etc.)
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#16 Posted : 10/24/2016 10:12:05 AM

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Bodhisativa wrote:
Drowning-man wrote:
Ulim wrote:
Jees wrote:
3rdI wrote:
HDPE isnt safe with solvents like naphtha, for more info do a search, its been highlighted plenty of times...
Yeppers.

EDIT: oops Ulim beat me with an even bigger chart Rolling eyes
Consider it a brain wash echo attempt Big grin

What do the letters even mean in your chart? Confused

I've used HpDE plascic jugs for Xylenes stb a dozen times never a problem. A glass jug full of lye scares me way more. Had a glass jar explode and splatter lye soup all over me and half my kitchen took hours to clean Han had to pour a liter of vinegar over me. I've seen solvents warp HDPE wen stored for a week or more but for a couple hours to make a few pulls I've never noticed any problems.


The reaction between HDPE and the solvent is immediate but also a gradual process, if i'm not mistaken. So any amount of exposure is going to leach into your solvent. And even if it may not feel like it's a problem, it might be later down the line if you continue using HPDE. Bioaccumulation is a thing. But then again, this is all down to technique (re-x, mini-A/B etc.)

Yeah there's a couple cleaning steps removed from any plastic contamination I FASA out the Xylenes clean 3-5x with acetone dissolve fumarates in water, freebase in glass jar, then pull with naptha. I never use plastic in final step especially since it involves hot solvent I just don't like messing with glass gallon jugs(all my extractions are 400G+) cuz if I drop it or it explodes I'm screwd. Dropped my plastic jug a couple times it just bounced the final naptha A/BB is like a pint jar, a lot easier to workwith. And just a little eye opener my friends have you seen the studies on all the contaminations from all the water and soda bottles we drink each year? And the mental problems caused by aluminum from cans and deodorant? (Alzheimer's, Dementia) guise were screwd either way Man's worst enemy is man:'(
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#17 Posted : 10/24/2016 3:27:24 PM

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I had xylene stored in HDPE flask once and the garage started stinking and it was a firmly closed cap. It simply permeated trough the plastic flask. Glass rules.
 
 
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