Quote: It was a jumple of words and voices, it was hard to tell if they were familiar or not, and it was often difficult to hear what they were saying but sometimes I could hear many coherent sentences.
That is a pretty common thing with LSD. It is good at making sense of "noise" (visual, audio, thoughts, etc...). There have been times when I've been home alone on LSD in the shower, and the sound of the water droplets coalesce to create voices.
Quote:A recurring theme in some previous bad trips with other chemicals is fear of insanity and no time, that I will feel this insanity and fear for ever and ever and there is no going back now.
What you need to start to do is regularly throughout the day, remind yourself that (especially in the case of DMT), you'll always be back (and more often than not, sooner than you may like). No matter how far out you get, reality always puts itself back together, and with the pace like it's trying to clean up to go make the bus. You need to repeat this to yourself throughout the day, and particularly on days you plan to smoke. By doing so, you are conditioning this thought in your head so that amidst all the confusion of a breakthrough, the thought follows reflexively to remind you that no matter how crazy it is right now, in moments, everything will be putting itself back to normal. You need to condition yourself so that the thought is involuntary and automatic, to come and reassure you when you would normally have trouble reassuring yourself.
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But, my question is about the voices I hear. I heard a jumble of voices when breaking through and I'm not sure if they are linked to the fear and paranoia. Does anyone else experience this, with DMT or anything else? I think part of the fear comes from the voices symbolising the dissolution of the barrier between 'me' and 'other'/everything else. So the veil between my mental voices and everyone elses is gone, which makes a sea rather than tributaries. And I drown in it! Sometimes when sitting before meditation or yoga in a group I feel the tickles of this phenomena and believe I can feel other peoples inner voices although their exact words or sentiments are not clear. Do you think this is psychosis or something else? I'd love to know anyones thoughts on anything mentioned.
The jumble of voices you hear are only linked to paranoia so far as you are becoming paranoid about them, but I would not say that they are a product of (or caused by) paranoia. Again, even more so than with LSD, this is something that DMT does. If you smoke DMT, be prepared to hear voices and other sounds. It's a natural result of consuming the substance. Something that DMT excels at (even in the low dose range) is playing with the "afterimage" effect. This is most easily seen through vision. I think a lot of people here can probably relate to the experience of perhaps looking at your living room or bedroom or wherever you smoke, and then closing your eyes, and DMT kind of preserves that scene as an energetic construct, but it then proceeds to "play" with it, using it as a base for manipulation. This takes place with mental thoughts as well.
Here's a really simple experiment you can do. Smoke a small dose of DMT (enough to see colors), and just think the thought "hello." Say it to yourself in your head just like normal. Listen to how the thought resounds. For myself there is echoing, and a feedback loop. As it feeds back on itself more and more, it becomes distorted, and when it has acquired enough energy, that sound may become kind of sentient in its own right. Perhaps that won't happen for you, but you can run some thought experiments to see how voices become affected by your thoughts.
Then there is the whole entity phenomenon. It comes part and parcel with DMT, and they have voices, and they like to speak, so be prepared to listen. Sometimes it will be in English, sometimes in other earthly languages, and quite often in indecipherable languages/sounds that are not produceable with a human vocal aparatus. Sometimes it might just seem like rhythmic code. If they speak in a language you can understand, sometimes the grammar will be nutty, and yet sometimes the grammar will be spot on, but the message makes no sense, and then there are those blissful occasions where they tell you things with good grammar that make sense and are meaningful. There are two primary modes of communication. There is telepathy, and this is where its as if they use the "radio station"/medium that your thoughts/own internal voice usually takes place on in order to "verbally" communicate. The other is entirely auditory where the sound they produce seems physical, and is as if your ears are hearing it. Speaking for myself, I have noticed on multiple occasions how entities speaking near one of my ears will sound louder in that ear, as the same would hold true for a talking person in consensus reality. Likewise, the closer the entity is in physical space to me, the louder the voice.
Overall, I just want to stress that this whole voice thing is so highly unlikely a product of psychosis. When you're meditating in yoga and your mind is clear, you may be subtly picking up on the others' thoughts, as you all tune into a similar radio station. I find this phenomenon to also be plentiful in my life, particularly with people with whom I share strong bonds. You just have to have more faith in yourself and your own sanity. You'll be just fine.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
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