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JohnIce2
#1 Posted : 11/21/2015 9:18:43 AM

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Hello! I Just got done evaping a batch of Yopo extract I've been working on. I believe it is in salt form. Can anyone verify this by the pictures? It should consist of Bufotenin and Meo + some impurities. What should I do from here to make it smoke-able?

I used a Distilled White Vinegar, Water, ISO-Alcohol (Mostly Alcohol) Mix to do my pulls. The Crystals smell kinda like a frog/toad mixed with a sour vinegar smell which I imaging will go away.

I know these pictures are not much to go off of but can anyone please verify what I have for me (if at all possible)

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#2 Posted : 11/21/2015 3:36:13 PM

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looks like impure bufotenine extract. Do not expect there to be any relevant levels of 5-MeO-DMT in there.
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#3 Posted : 11/21/2015 8:03:38 PM

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Hello! haha if this is indeed a crude bufotenin salt extract then what steps could I take from here with ISO Alcohol, Lime (Calcium Hydroxide), Baking Soda, and vinigar? How exactly should I go about converting it to a smokable form (Lime and water + the crystals = reaction, dry solution, pull with Iso and evap?).
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#4 Posted : 11/22/2015 12:34:34 AM

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that will work. It might yield a goo.
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JohnIce2
#5 Posted : 11/26/2015 8:47:10 PM

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How would you recommend smoking it? It hardens up when I use in a homemade freebase pipe.
I used a hollowed out light bulb and it burnt through the bottem of the glass.
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Talkswithtrees
#6 Posted : 11/30/2015 1:43:02 AM
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If youve freebased it and pulled and evapped already Id advise disolving it in alcohol and evapping on some leaf material. I use caapi, harmalas seem to just go with it for me. Then you can smoke it in a pipe or bong. Pull slowly!
 
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#7 Posted : 12/1/2015 6:55:44 AM

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Looks nice, hard to tell content/purity from a picture though. Yopo alkaloid extract in the past yielded blood-red crystals, but that was from evaporating naptha layer of a/b. Sniffing of crystals with harmalas and a lil baking soda led to warm/tense feeling in shoulders that faded in to OEVs/relaxation. Basing and iso pull should work, just don't burn it when drying. Should be fine for sniffing as-is. If you want to smoke and can't get nice crystals I'd say trees' idea of putting on plant material is your best bet.
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Get a TLC kit, that way you know for sure... Smile
 
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#9 Posted : 12/2/2015 10:17:59 AM

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TLC wouldn't give a positive ID on bufotenin unless the kits come with reference samples now Pleased
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TreehouseChemist wrote:
TLC wouldn't give a positive ID on bufotenin unless the kits come with reference samples now Pleased


Not true. The kits can easily id bufotenin by comparing it with caffeine and using the tlc spot height calculator which you can find in my signature. Plus, bufotenine, unlike dmt and 5 meodmt and most other tryptamines, can be seen in visible light in a tlc plate after a few minutes. Plus you have the reagents and the reference videos to confirm the identity.
 
TreehouseChemist
#11 Posted : 12/2/2015 6:59:08 PM

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endlessness wrote:

Not true. The kits can easily id bufotenin by comparing it with caffeine and using the tlc spot height calculator which you can find in my signature. Plus, bufotenine, unlike dmt and 5 meodmt and most other tryptamines, can be seen in visible light in a tlc plate after a few minutes. Plus you have the reagents and the reference videos to confirm the identity.


Nifty! I'm going to have to get one of those reagent kits. Already got the plates and uv light from when you first mentioned it Razz
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JohnIce2
#12 Posted : 12/7/2015 2:39:22 AM

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Hey! So I attempted a freebase of my crystals. What I came out with was a light tan powder that had hardly any smell. I tasted it and it was partially salty (not as much as the salts previous).
When I tested it by smoking it in a freebase pipe, I didn't get any NOTICEABLE smoke but after holding the flame below for a bit I started to inhale. I got a little bit of a head rush that was on/in my forehead and very mild dis-association (or at least I felt like my mind and body where not their at all but I could still interact). Do I need to dry and re-freebase it again? I did two pulls and combined them before evap. One was left to sit for 2 hours and another was left overnight (6-9 Hours).

Any Advice?
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TreehouseChemist
#13 Posted : 12/8/2015 1:24:45 AM

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JohnIce2 wrote:

Any Advice?


Insufflation. That's how yopo is traditionally used, makes sense to use the actives the same way. I've never tried freebasing it so can't help there.

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