I'm one of those people who believe Hyperspace and entities are objectively real. Personally, I do not gravitate towards the theory that entities merely represent "archetypes" of the subconscious. I saw an entity once, and I most definitely interacted with it.

That being said, it's obvious entities do not exist in every day reality since we don't perceive them. Or if they do, then we do not have the faculties to perceive them on a daily basis.

In order to prove the objective reality of entities (which, in my mind, would represent First Contact with an alien intelligence) we need some sort of empirical proof.

Obviously, we can't take scientific instruments into Hyperspace. But do you think it could be possible to record the information our visual cortex is registering while navigating Hyperspace?

In 1933, Nikola Tesla stated that it may be possible to photograph our thoughts. He said:



Does anybody think it could be possible to record our visions of Hyperspace? And if it were possible, could we possibly face hyperslap for attempting such an experiment?

I don't. But regarding you question...if it may be possible to record visions we have I would say yes, this may indeed be possible some years from now.



Here's the resulting video:



And here's the link to a random page of which I took the quote from.

Clearly the technology is already being made. It will take a while to get better quality and more tests and such. I think this could eventually be a big breakthough for DMT research.

The biggest question I have is this, If Tesla attempted to record what was displayed on out reinas then we would have to be physically seeing what was happening in the trip. A lot of people I know close there eyes when they go to hyperspace. Since it dosent seem like we are actually seeing, rather having images from our brain get projected to us. This would lead me to belive it would be just about impossoble.

Of course I am in no way an expert and would love to be wrong. This is a very interesting topic and something I have thought about many times. It really is why I value visionary art. It sometimes seems they took a camera to hyperspace!

Personally speaking - no; if you've had an overwhelmingly intense DMT experience, or any harrowing breakthrough psychedelic experience in general - the notion of attempting to 'capture' or 'objectively pin down or record' said experience is, ime, laughable at best. Typically when in a heavy experience, to where the physical world is literally gone and the "Me' is completely dissolute - the notion of any sort of objective grasping/dualistic ideals is utterly hilarious. Sand through the fingers..

This is just my opinion after years of diving deep. I don't think it works like that, haha.

We can't even describe the subjective experience of what it is to be "Me" ,a long with all my hopes, fears, daydreams, desires, etc. Im not talking about the prefrontal cortex doing 'X,Y,Z' or a subtype of receptors being lit up on X, Y, Z. Those do not describe what it is to be a Me or let alone the subjectivity of living Life itself nor the human experience.

With that said, id like to know how someone will record - iota by iota, strata by strata, tit for tat, spot on - a deeply intense psychedelic, unitive, fully boundary dissolving state of consciousness.

Good luck.

There is a recent thread on artificial neural networks generating similar quality images as that fmri study which is just wow

Tat makes a valid point. Would a recording really give you the emotion, the very taste of the visions and feelings as if you'd had them yourself?

I do believe it may be possible one day to capture the experience, but I'm talking about the visual aspect. And even so, it's not like you could just display it on a monitor with our limited worldly colour palette or even in 3 restrictive dimensions.

To even view the trip it would probably require some sort of direct neural interface. I do seriously think you'll be able to relive the experience to some extent eventually. We've already done stranger things with technology in my opinion.

You might just think 'what's the point, I'll just smoalk some moar'.

Regarding OP question, my guess would be no. Well, probably yes, in a distant future, but not for now.
- Hallucinations/Visions occur in the mind, not in the eye. The eye is not two-way, it's only a way in, so we can't "look at the mind" through the eye. We have to look at the mind but our knowledge is rather limited in that area.
- One can most definitely interact with one's mind, so... that does not give any proof of anything. I remember reading a paper on how to prove what the DMT experience is or is not... very interesting if that is your "objective".

Like steppa, I think it's all taking place inside. The visions are already so strong at sub-breakthrough doses that the brain has trouble keeping up (linking what we "perceive" with what we know we should see). So, with higher doses, the video signals are just way too distorted for the brain to reconstruct the 3D environment we're in. So it creates a new one from scratch using common imagery, or shows the raw video feed and another part of the brain links it to common imagery so we can process it... and what cannot be linked cannot be remembered.
That's my current theory about it anyway.

Regarding that youtube video, it looks kind of useless to me. Building images based on dictionaries. That's exactly the sort of thing we don't want when trying to record visions (= converting them into common images).
At 00:21, a hairless black male on the left turns into a white woman with long hair on the right. The plane coming after that seems to have morphed into a harbor with "Tout ce que je voulais" written on top, and the white woman coming next turns to a black man.
It looks promising, sure, perfect for fundraising... but that dictionary-based technique seems plainly wrong to me.

Google's artificial intelligence can dream I assume it a can also trip and recorded it as well but for a physical person you might be able to record brain wave data but not actual images.

Can't really record all encompassing synesthesia where the senses melt into one unified river of perception/understanding/energy

...yet

Who knows orion it could be happening now...

Sure, but like I was trying to say, a solely visual recording misses so much of it. And I'm not even sure higher dimensional visions/geometry (or 360 degree vision etc), can really be depicted like it is experienced.

You make a very good point UNI..

...mmm...maybe it's more like a dream, record a dream, i not try yet the hyperspace, and for sure i couldn't imagine it, but a dream...i can record it for myself only, years ago i keep a diary, at the begining i write all and some paints, after was a sort of code, some word and symbol...now if i read it i remeber everything and i can (with limit) feel it, and the one that was coded better.

So maybe work in this direction can be made, but only for yourself...sorry my english is soo poor i can explain it...but the feeling it's more than visual, maybe something can record vision in some way...but the feeling it's only yours, i think.

Maybe in the future we will have such complex neural interfaces that we will be able to not just view an experience, but to relive the experience in our minds? Maybe we will be able to store those experiences in synthetic neural networks or lab-grown brains and download them into our own when we choose to?

We are a long way from this, in terms of human time (but still an eye blink in terms of the history of technological evolution from the invention of fire or the wheel). We will probably have already figured out how to erase a damaged childhood and replace it with an upbringing of love and compassion. We will have already been able to erase learned and hard-wired behaviours by altering our own brain mapping, curing OCD in a few minutes of sitting in a chair whilst you talk about what new hobbies you want implanted and what muscle memory upgrades you want to go along with it to make you awesome at fixing antique watches or drawing from memories that have been boosted artificially to seem more real than life itself.

Call me a dreamer, but the brain is up for hacking IMO. I really believe all of this is possible, I don't even feel like any of this is outside the box at all.

Its kinda like that movie chappie where they download a self-aware artificial intelligence and can also copy human consciousness to robots same idea as anyone seen that movie and know i a am talking about?

I saw that movie, pretty hilarious. There's all kinds of movies lately about uploading ones brain or loading an artificial intelligence into an organic body.