Hi there, this is my first post to this forum. Nice to be here!

OK, this is a story I heard two hamsters talking while waiting for the bus. They were talking about A. longifolia extraction. A. longifolia is a weed in this part of the world and would be very good if something came out of it, so I kept listening.

The first hamster talked that he used the DMT handbook process using HCl by boiling 350 g of semi fresh phylodes. He then used lye and naphtha for the extraction and freezed the result. To his dismay, nothing came of it. Later he thought on using the twigs from which the phylodes came with some bark taken from smaller branches. The debarking was very imperfect and lots of wood came with parts of bark. All in all it was 130 g of twigs (diameter < 2 mm) and bark. Again same process, yet this time with Phosphoric acid at pH=3. Lye and naphtha as usual, but this time he left the naphtha for much more time as the resulting goo was much harder to separate. Freezing the naphtha produced , well, something quite intangible, so he let the naphtha evaporate. In the end it came a sort of a greenish oil with a salt mixed in which filled him with hope. It weighted slightly less than 200 mg, which would mean a yield of 0.15%, not too bad considering the amount of cellulose that entered the process. Of course there is a noticeable amount of oil in there, so the yield is probably lower than that.

On hearing this conversation I got some questions:
- is there a way to effectively know if spice is really there? what other stuff can come from acacia bark extracted with the A/B process? (of course smoking it would provide a no doubt proof, but this hamster did not want to smoke, just to know if he could use the bark for some acaciahuasca preparations). Any suggestions?

Blessings,
Picatris

SWIM has extracted from longifolia a few years ago. Yes, you can get a very very small amount of spice... but honestly it so not really worth the effort... depending on the time of the year when you get your plant material there may be almost no dmt in the plant... phylodes especially...

if you really want to extract dmt from an acacia ... obtusifolia is the way to go.

If you want to try to avoid all the extra oils, fat, and gunk, you should do a defatting process on your collected acidified solution BEFORE basifying. Do this by washing your acidic solution with naphtha--and then discarding the naphtha, which will contain all the oils, etc., and none of the DMT.

See "defatting" in vovin's tek.