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#21 Posted : 4/18/2015 11:13:30 AM

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Kingofsnakes, when your doing a mini a/b there is usually some oils/fats/gunk trapped in between the solvent and the acidic water on bottom. Sometimes it's thin and sometimes it's a nasty messy layer.
Pipette takes forever, so I use a seperatory funnel, and I wash it twice with acid in case it didn't get it all the first time, second time I use half the amount. Then it's normal routine from there, but save all your liquids until your absolutely sure you got all the spice.

As DansMa Tete mentioned though, it all depends on your bark, it just may not have much fat in it, anyway good luck and hope you get good resultsThumbs up
 

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#22 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:22:32 PM
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Hey guys , i also just get ACRB and made few extractions via Cybs tek and first time i made 3 flasks whit 50g ACRB , (have made great reasults whit same tek whit MHRB) but this time at the end no cristals only a little goo from 3 flasks , i was quite disapointed , so i do another try next day whit only one flask and so yesterday again only 200mg of orange brown yellowy goo.. i do the same way as whit MHRB whit cybs tek...and friend that send it to me sayd that probalby is no good extarction tek and that it dont work on ACRB...
 
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#23 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:31:24 PM

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Dreamcatcher90 wrote:
Hey guys , i also just get ACRB and made few extractions via Cybs tek and first time i made 3 flasks whit 50g ACRB , (have made great reasults whit same tek whit MHRB) but this time at the end no cristals only a little goo from 3 flasks , i was quite disapointed , so i do another try next day whit only one flask and so yesterday again only 200mg of orange brown yellowy goo.. i do the same way as whit MHRB whit cybs tek...and dude that send it to me sayd that probalby no good extarction tek and that it dont work on ACRB...


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so i sayd to guy who send it to me and he sayd that the tek is no good for ACRB


Your 'Guy' is wrong I'm afraid....

Dreamcatcher90 wrote:
...and now im reading here that people get cristals and good yeald out of ACRB from cybs tek....is it possible that the bark is not good ???


People get a nice crystally yield all the time with ACRB.

Is it possible that your bark is no good??.....very probably, yes.

Acrb can be high in NMT and give Goo OR you may need to perform a 'cleanup' tek after the extraction (such as a mini A/B) if you desperately want Xtals...
There is nothing wrong with Goo at all...just use it.
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#24 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:46:56 PM
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Very happy tnx for really quick reply Very happy and i saw that the previous post isnt really in context whit Thick Light's A/B tek ....so i posted here. Very happy I put the goo in my changa mix and i will use it for shure , i know it is good cuz there is also goo whit MHRB when i make your tek , and it yealds allways good , depends on the qulity of the bark , so i made same whit ACRB and only goo and little of it 200mg So today i also checked the formum and i saw people say that there are good results and also cristals from your TEK and i see now that probably no good bark. And i dont mind goo but there is only a little of goo....
 
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#25 Posted : 4/18/2015 1:13:54 PM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
Kingofsnakes, when your doing a mini a/b there is usually some oils/fats/gunk trapped in between the solvent and the acidic water on bottom. Sometimes it's thin and sometimes it's a nasty messy layer.
Pipette takes forever, so I use a seperatory funnel, and I wash it twice with acid in case it didn't get it all the first time, second time I use half the amount. Then it's normal routine from there, but save all your liquids until your absolutely sure you got all the spice.

As DansMa Tete mentioned though, it all depends on your bark, it just may not have much fat in it, anyway good luck and hope you get good resultsThumbs up


Thanks DC, just got some crystal results which is nice for a first attempt, please see photo.

Had a look at the soup from the other day and it has a huge amount of shellite left over separated at the top. Maybe pulled too early/ didn't allow to settle for long enough? Please check out photo. Decided to pull it and place in freezer. I think (this could be a huge noob mistake) that the bark is high quality and may not need the clean up.

Quick question, is there a length of time that is too long in between each pull? One other question... the Shellite was heated up to 50degrees and was bubbling lightly before it was added. I know there is some discussion on heat of room/water bath etc, bit do you think this is too hot?

Many thanks in advance.

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#26 Posted : 4/18/2015 2:33:15 PM

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kingofsnakes wrote:
Spaced Out 2 wrote:
Kingofsnakes, when your doing a mini a/b there is usually some oils/fats/gunk trapped in between the solvent and the acidic water on bottom. Sometimes it's thin and sometimes it's a nasty messy layer.
Pipette takes forever, so I use a seperatory funnel, and I wash it twice with acid in case it didn't get it all the first time, second time I use half the amount. Then it's normal routine from there, but save all your liquids until your absolutely sure you got all the spice.

As DansMa Tete mentioned though, it all depends on your bark, it just may not have much fat in it, anyway good luck and hope you get good resultsThumbs up


Thanks DC, just got some crystal results which is nice for a first attempt, please see photo.

Had a look at the soup from the other day and it has a huge amount of shellite left over separated at the top. Maybe pulled too early/ didn't allow to settle for long enough? Please check out photo. Decided to pull it and place in freezer. I think (this could be a huge noob mistake) that the bark is high quality and may not need the clean up.

Quick question, is there a length of time that is too long in between each pull? One other question... the Shellite was heated up to 50degrees and was bubbling lightly before it was added. I know there is some discussion on heat of room/water bath etc, bit do you think this is too hot?

Many thanks in advance.


Quick question, is there a length of time that is too long in between each pull?
No time wouldn't make any difference, only the temperature would make the most significant difference at this stage, keep the shellite hot and the base warm. Some might say keep the base at room temp even. This is explained in the MAX ION TEK


 
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#27 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:12:07 PM

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I've went days while leaving solvent sit on soup because something comes up or don't have the time to finish it immediately. I just shake it and let it resettle, pull solvent off when I get time. My pics from earlier I think took 4-5 days to complete, my time is usually limited.

KOF, looks good and now you know there's spice in your bark. That's why we emphasize doing smaller extractions to start out with so just in case you do run into issues then you didn't just waste half a kilo. The more you do them the easier it gets, and you'll figure what works best for you.
Now all you have left to do is try it out. Thumbs up
 
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#28 Posted : 4/18/2015 11:09:21 PM

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The mini A/B is absolutely necessary if you want crystals from ACRB. Defat just doesn't cut it. Thumbs up


This is not true. I showed that here.

I followed Cyb's tek exactly, except not tending to heat baths, which basically meant that my base soup was not as hot for as long as the tek specifically calls for. Cyb himself has commented that this lower temperature probably helped leave out many fats/yellow.

With later extractions of the same batch I combined the pulls, but simply outdoor (80F) evapped down to 1/3 of the original liquid, then freeze precipped and still got crystals. There was more yellowing which is expected to occur from the pre-evap, but crystals indeed.

The acrb was Hawaiian in origin.

You just never know, really.

Could be that my bark has more fats/oils, that's true. But for most it's necessary to do that mini A/B. What I really meant was doing a defat with naphtha before basing is a complete waste of time. I've never had good results with a defat like that with ACRB.

I always do heated pulls because it saves me a lot of time waiting for the solvent to separate. Heat + plant oils will help reduce emulsions. I've had some serious issues with emulsions with room temperature pulls, so I make sure it's at least warm when doing pulls. Perhaps that's just me being impatient, or shaking the hell out of my bottles too much Laughing
 
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#29 Posted : 4/19/2015 10:39:07 AM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
I've went days while leaving solvent sit on soup because something comes up or don't have the time to finish it immediately. I just shake it and let it resettle, pull solvent off when I get time. My pics from earlier I think took 4-5 days to complete, my time is usually limited.

KOF, looks good and now you know there's spice in your bark. That's why we emphasize doing smaller extractions to start out with so just in case you do run into issues then you didn't just waste half a kilo. The more you do them the easier it gets, and you'll figure what works best for you.
Now all you have left to do is try it out. Thumbs up


Many thanks. Will continue to pull over the next few days. Most likely will run again in a couple of weeks with another 100g and research where and how to tighten up my procedure to get better yields. Will make some changa with what I have in the meantime.
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