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superturkey
#1 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:02:02 AM

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Hello all

Just like to let others know that might having trouble with ACRB or about to attempt their first extraction. I have just had luck with Earthwalkers 100g ARCB TEK with mini A/B clean up steps as I was having trouble with the amount of orange goo(plant fats/tannins) I was left with after extraction even with a De-fat at acid stage and Sodium Carbonate wash.

Differences I made from other TEK's:

Freeze/Thaw x 2
Boil bark powder only once for 2 hours at low heat.
Do not filter. Keeps it all, this way nothing can be lost.
Do not de-fat at the acid stage.
Sodium Carbonate wash is optional but not necessary.

I was left with nothing but white spice, although not entirely a solid product it easily melts at room temp(australia!), so I keep what I don't salt in the freezer.
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#2 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:52:00 AM

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The mini A/B is absolutely necessary if you want crystals from ACRB. Defat just doesn't cut it. I combine aspects from Cyb's Salt and Max Ion tek with Earthwalker's and I always end up with nice fluffy white. Thumbs up
 
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#3 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:55:04 AM

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Looking good Superturkey. You'll find the more extractions you do the more you refine your technique, thus the easier it becomes, then you realize how freakin easy it really is. Especially if you use a tek that involves no cooking.

Keep up the good workThumbs up , have you had the pleasure of trying it out?
 
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#4 Posted : 4/18/2015 1:39:59 AM

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Metanoia wrote:
The mini A/B is absolutely necessary if you want crystals from ACRB. Defat just doesn't cut it. I combine aspects from Cyb's Salt and Max Ion tek with Earthwalker's and I always end up with nice fluffy white. Thumbs up


I havn't looked into the Max Ion TEK yet, will do now. Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 4/18/2015 1:43:51 AM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
Looking good Superturkey. You'll find the more extractions you do the more you refine your technique, thus the easier it becomes, then you realize how freakin easy it really is. Especially if you use a tek that involves no cooking.

Keep up the good workThumbs up , have you had the pleasure of trying it out?


Yes, I did yesterday after a bit of hesitation as I had to find the courage for it. My heart goes crazy, I compare it to skydiving. I feel nervous but just have to take the leap and let it take you for a ride.
 
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#6 Posted : 4/18/2015 2:16:41 AM

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After many, many times I still get the jitters a little but it's slowly fading. Meditation beforehand has really helped tremendously. I have my little ritual I go through that helps prepare for flight.

I've been liking Changa lately, prolongs the effects, and slows the come up a bit, very enjoyable.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/18/2015 4:49:27 AM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
After many, many times I still get the jitters a little but it's slowly fading. Meditation beforehand has really helped tremendously. I have my little ritual I go through that helps prepare for flight.

I've been liking Changa lately, prolongs the effects, and slows the come up a bit, very enjoyable.

Yes I also use changa on occasion, I don't actually like the initial effects, I feel anxious and regret. But it's kind of a rollercoaster, where as I can have a bad time at some points, but then it will transcend into a completely different set of emotions and thoughts. I find the afterglow the best when I take a hit of changa (1:1:1) relax for a few mins, take 40-50mg DMT, trip balls, then once I'm remotely conscious again I force myself up and hop into the pre filled bath tub. Then I can truly relax, reflect, heal and remedy life. You actually can have your own Eureka moment in the bath
 
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#8 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:15:33 AM

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Metanoia wrote:
The mini A/B is absolutely necessary if you want crystals from ACRB. Defat just doesn't cut it. Thumbs up



This is not true. I showed that here.

I followed Cyb's tek exactly, except not tending to heat baths, which basically meant that my base soup was not as hot for as long as the tek specifically calls for. Cyb himself has commented that this lower temperature probably helped leave out many fats/yellow.

With later extractions of the same batch I combined the pulls, but simply outdoor (80F) evapped down to 1/3 of the original liquid, then freeze precipped and still got crystals. There was more yellowing which is expected to occur from the pre-evap, but crystals indeed.

The acrb was Hawaiian in origin.

You just never know, really.
 
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#9 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:16:44 AM

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I've also had great results with the Cyb/Earthwalker method.

Thank you very much. Smile
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#10 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:27:12 AM

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Pathfinder wrote:
I've also had great results with the Cyb/Earthwalker method.

Thank you very much. Smile

WOW, yours turned out actual dry powder by the looks of it. Nice job. How much bark did you extract here?
 
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#11 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:31:20 AM

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Adjhart wrote:
Metanoia wrote:
The mini A/B is absolutely necessary if you want crystals from ACRB. Defat just doesn't cut it. Thumbs up



This is not true. I showed that here.

I followed Cyb's tek exactly, except not tending to heat baths, which basically meant that my base soup was not as hot for as long as the tek specifically calls for. Cyb himself has commented that this lower temperature probably helped leave out many fats/yellow.

With later extractions of the same batch I combined the pulls, but simply outdoor (80F) evapped down to 1/3 of the original liquid, then freeze precipped and still got crystals. There was more yellowing which is expected to occur from the pre-evap, but crystals indeed.

The acrb was Hawaiian in origin.

You just never know, really.

Yea i am starting to realise the dramatic effect temperature has on the results. So you pull at room temp and heat the naptha?
 
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#12 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:34:27 AM

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superturkey wrote:
Pathfinder wrote:
I've also had great results with the Cyb/Earthwalker method.

Thank you very much. Smile

WOW, yours turned out actual dry powder by the looks of it. Nice job. How much bark did you extract here?


This was from 6 pulls 100g of powdered ACRB with the mini a/b, final yeild was 1.3g.

I have some more pulls in the freezer that I would estimate to be at least a couple hundred mg, waiting to do a re-x on them as I got some base soup in the mix (no mini here as I just wanted to see if there was anything left in the base soup).
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#13 Posted : 4/18/2015 5:50:32 AM

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Pathfinder wrote:
superturkey wrote:
Pathfinder wrote:
I've also had great results with the Cyb/Earthwalker method.

Thank you very much. Smile

WOW, yours turned out actual dry powder by the looks of it. Nice job. How much bark did you extract here?


This was from 6 pulls 100g of powdered ACRB with the mini a/b, final yeild was 1.3g.

I have some more pulls in the freezer that I would estimate to be at least a couple hundred mg, waiting to do a re-x on them as I got some base soup in the mix (no mini here as I just wanted to see if there was anything left in the base soup).

Im about to do the same I've left the soup sitting around for over a week now which I shake occasionally, maybe there might be another couple hundred milligrams left to pull. I really don't know how there is this difference between dry powdery crystals and a crystal that melts at room temp? Doesn't really matter to me, it definitely is DMT
 
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#14 Posted : 4/18/2015 6:07:27 AM

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superturkey wrote:

Yea i am starting to realise the dramatic effect temperature has on the results. So you pull at room temp and heat the naptha?



It's a sliding scale. For more yield, including fats and oils, have a warmer base soup or solvent or both. For a more pure extraction, don't use a warm water bath at all, do everything at room temp 69-72F.

This is far from the most precise way of achieving pure crystals. But it'll work for me. Thumbs up
 
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#15 Posted : 4/18/2015 7:10:43 AM

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Adjhart wrote:
superturkey wrote:

Yea i am starting to realise the dramatic effect temperature has on the results. So you pull at room temp and heat the naptha?



It's a sliding scale. For more yield, including fats and oils, have a warmer base soup or solvent or both. For a more pure extraction, don't use a warm water bath at all, do everything at room temp 69-72F.

This is far from the most precise way of achieving pure crystals. But it'll work for me. Thumbs up

Nice to know. Makes a lot of sense now, since one extraction I did as hot as possible( had to use a towel on the bottle) left me with nothing but dark goo
 
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#16 Posted : 4/18/2015 8:03:54 AM

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This is no cooking as well. But I did keep my base soup warm, the mini a/b cleaned it up nicely.
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#17 Posted : 4/18/2015 9:42:09 AM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
This is no cooking as well. But I did keep my base soup warm, the mini a/b cleaned it up nicely.


Thats a hell of a yield by the looks of it. Thats from 100g?
 
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#18 Posted : 4/18/2015 10:01:13 AM

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Photos look like what I'm after made my first attempt at a tek, choosing Earthwalkers method yesterday.

I've took number of photos where things didn't look so good and it's currently in the freezer. Due to check it out in a few hours so I'll see if I hit spice or not before I post a separate thread.

One of the things that concerned me on the clean up stages:

"Step 3
Now pipette or siphon out all the naphtha and the brown fatty liquid that sits animated in between the two layers. DISCARD these as it contains the plant fats and oils and no longer contains any alkaloids".


... zero brown fatty liquid, don't know if that's a bad thing?

Great info in above replies, will update later.
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... zero brown fatty liquid, don't know if that's a bad thing?

It depends a lot of your bark (= different contents in fats and whatnot), so i wouldn't worry much.
You'll have your answer soon Wink
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#20 Posted : 4/18/2015 10:56:56 AM

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No that was from 350g of acrb. Final yield was 6.156g,7 total pulls....slowly approaching the 2% mark.Big grin

4g used to make Changa, 2g of free base left, well less now. So no extractions for a while for me. And since I can't do anymore extractions I'm trying my luck with raising shrooms Twisted Evil

Nice clean looking spice PathfinderBig grin
 
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