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#1 Posted : 3/26/2015 9:57:55 PM
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I got a bunch of leaves and some small vines less than 1cm diameter and some are green. Will these work for an extraction? How do I shred them? Put them on the ground and hit them wih a hammer? Do I peel the bark off? Should I cut them into 1" pieces? Basically how do I process what I have?

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#2 Posted : 3/26/2015 11:08:23 PM

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well i am no expert, but i would hammer them up with the bark on (Wrapped in something durable to contain it, or over a large clean surface to reclaim excess) until they are roughly broken down into fibers. then i would shorten the fibers with hardy shears of some kind (i wouldn't worry about shortening the fibers until after you hammer it up).

at this point, you could brew it, if you thoroughly lyse the cells with your brewing.
if you wanted to brew more quickly, i recommend investing the $20 for a heavy-duty coffee grinder. you can only do about a cup of ground material at a time with such a device, but it doesn't take more than a couple seconds per round, so you can work through quite a large sum of material in a relatively short time.

that should render a fine powder intermixed with some longer bits of fiber. 3x30 that, filter, reduce, and either extract or consume.
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#3 Posted : 3/26/2015 11:19:10 PM
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Ok that sounds easy enough. I have a blender and a coffee grinder that I've been using with ACRB. Plus I have a hammer. Should be easy enough.
 
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#4 Posted : 3/27/2015 1:23:00 AM
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shredded perfectly. Now can it dry out in the sun?
 
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#5 Posted : 3/27/2015 1:40:18 AM

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So, you want to dry it to put it after in water ?
Freeze and thaw would be more effective for lyse cells, imo.

I'm just guessing, no experience with this product.
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#6 Posted : 3/27/2015 1:54:07 AM

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They look young, will they be active? Curious because I'm soon to have a live caapi.
 
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#7 Posted : 3/27/2015 2:34:37 AM

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Don't dry it out! Brew it straightaway. There are some who are of the opinion that fresh vine provides a much better experience. Something gets lost when using dried vine. Just think about the difference between reconstituted freeze-dried strawberries versus real fresh ones.
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#8 Posted : 3/29/2015 12:50:49 AM
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I made a brew of about 100g of this vine and 25g of some real weak ACRB 3x 30min boils. I drank half and was heavily sedated and felt like vomiting but no Dmt effect whatsoever. I also had diaherria. So I think the vine worked. It was the ACRB that didn't work. And the more I think about it, I may have dug up the wrong root. I will try again in a few days using a full 9hr brew session.
 
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#9 Posted : 3/29/2015 5:37:49 AM

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That vine is far too young & small for brewing.
Generally the oldest, biggest vines are used.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/29/2015 5:45:29 AM

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What would the ideal age and thickness of vine be for good content?
 
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#11 Posted : 3/29/2015 6:27:19 AM

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nemesauce wrote:
What would the ideal age and thickness of vine be for good content?


I'm not exactly sure. All the vine i've had has always come as either a single large vine weighing 1kg, or several large sections weighing 1-300g each.

Generally i've recieved vine pieces with a diameter equal to or a little smaller than a bottled water.

I'm far from an expert on this subject though, smaller vines can be used. I'm just not sure exactly how small they can be before they run the risk of not having much alkaloid content.

 
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#12 Posted : 3/29/2015 7:05:28 AM
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pI think there was something there that worked. I just Smoked some 14-20x Caapi leaf that felt similar to what it felt like when I drank the vine tea. i just had no visions like when I took a hit of DMT fb after smoking some Caapi leaves.
 
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#13 Posted : 4/2/2015 12:36:00 AM

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looks nice.
 
 
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