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failed ACRB using thick light's tek, any opinions on what i did wrong. Options
 
thechiseler
#1 Posted : 2/3/2013 6:07:28 PM
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Followed every step, besides these deviations:

- boiled only for 50 minutes using 100 g. 5 total boils though. The water was getting too reduced during these boils, thus they were cut short.

- spilt about 10-20 % of solution during the shake part (don't have jars, so SWIM used a pitcher with a stopper on top... the stopper didn't hold). Due to this SWIM had to start stirring vigorously instead. SWIM did this all yesterday, and this morning he got a protein-shaker and used that, time will tell if this worked.

- using plastic storage containers as extraction vessels

- during the mixing of the lye and the acacia soup, there were weird noises. At one point, SWIM believes there might have been a small explosion.

- using Ronsonol lighter fluid which may or may not have naptha in it (naptha is illegal in SWIM's residential area, SWIM does not want to deal with online-tracing bullshit)

EDIT: Also forgot to add, SWIM didn't adjust for proportion (ie, even though thick light used 400 g more acacia than SWIM, he still used same amount of NaOH, distilled H20, and Lighter fluid)

besides these, I followed the steps down pat and when SWIM lets the ligher fluid settle, nothing happens...just this (which I believe is just residue left over by the evaporated lighter fluid, if not tell SWIM so he could smoke it):






 

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#2 Posted : 9/2/2014 5:30:31 PM
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I hope you realized that you didn't follow the tek at all. You changed every amount unproportionatly. Also you didn't boil nearly long enough. Not to mention you used a lighter fluid that you don't even know for a fact can be used as a nps.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/2/2014 6:06:33 PM
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That is disappointing. However, from the looks of it, you seem to have gotten goo. Which isn't a bad thing. Although just from visual inspection it looks like you may have carried some base soup over with the solvent?

SWIM found that he had to let the soup settle a lot. He would even decant off the NPS and let it sit in another glass jar for a day while it did a non-assisted evap. He always found some purple pools in the bottom of the jar after a day, so there can be suspended particulate soup in the NPS that don't sink easily. Just with time.

Ronsonol is naptha, so good news there.

One would have reccomended you followed the recipe proportionally but it appears you did it right. What SWIM would reccomend is a careful scraping of everything. Scrape it into a shot glass for a re-x, which would take out the base contaminants as well as fats that were left over in it.

Protip: invest in some mason jars. Made of glass. The lids can be difficult sometimes but just soak them in hot water and they should seal well. Plastic is not a good idea generally. You may be safe but you also may not. SWIM used a plastic wine thief but the solvent had such little exposure to the plastic that he's not had any problems.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/2/2014 8:20:45 PM

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What does the stuff smell like? DMT/spice smells like one thing and one thing only but reminds me of flowers and tortillas. Yep, flowers and tortillas. It looks similar to some results I've had with ACRB where I've been less then thorough. The above member is correct, uh, you didn't follow the tek at all.

Oh well. If indeed that is goo you have, it will get you to hyperspace quite well.

And yeah, ronsonol should be just fine as NPS,it's what i use in a pinch and frankly seems to prefer DMT over fats and oils compared with VM&P, but don't quote me on that.
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#5 Posted : 9/2/2014 9:04:16 PM

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a perfect fluffy xtal TEK for a 100gr ACRB is Earthwalkers newbie friendly salt tek with mini A/B
You can still perhaps save (some of) your product. You also need to get a PH meter or litmus paper...

 
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#6 Posted : 9/3/2014 4:23:25 AM

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^^^ This

I can vouch for Earthwalkers (Cybs Hybrid tek with a mini a/b added on).

I used Cybs tek to a T except for the mini a/b outlined in Earthwalkers tek as I only use 50g ACRB per extraction, and I must say WOW. 1.43% yield with 2 50ml naptha pulls, and the bottle is still very cloudy.

Props to these 2, they know what they're talking about.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/3/2014 6:54:32 AM

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Thanks for the feedback guys , I'm glad the TEK it's getting used with confidence and is getting great results , but thechiseler you can't really say you followed the TEK , you failed to follow the basics of the TEK , you also displayed poor handling of dangerous chemicals , but you did a lot better then others I've seen Razz ! It even looks as though you yielded alittle goo though be it contaminated , if I was you I'd just reheat minimal naphtha ( ronsanol is fine ) tip over you're dish with a back n forth motion then freeze precipe again see what comes out ! .............then next time follow Cybs salt TEK https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...d_ATB_'Salt'_Tek
it's the bees knees of TEKs for newbies then try alittle bigger attempt with the min ab on the end https://www.dmt-nexus.me...mp;find=unreadThumbs up
 
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#8 Posted : 9/3/2014 9:47:23 AM

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Yeah I would be tempted to do a mini a/b on that it looks dirty.
 
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#9 Posted : 9/3/2014 10:01:10 AM

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thechiseler wrote:
SWIM did this all yesterday, and this morning he got a protein-shaker and used that, time will tell if this worked.

- using plastic storage containers as extraction vessels.

A protein shaker???, you need to do more reading on extraction and then get some proper supplies before you do yourself, or worse, someone else some damage.

i would throw that away. If you used plastic containers instead of glass you can easily get some unwanted nastyness in the solvent.

This stuff is easy and relatively safe if you do the correct research.
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Dreamcatcher90
#10 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:08:04 PM
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Hey fellow nexians, had done ACRB from hawaii 2x extraction via cybs tek and at first try i had done 3 bottles at once and the end result was only a little goo, next day i was curios if made somthing wrong and i made another cybs tek on one bottle 50g, and again only 200mg of goo...so i sayd to guy who send it to me and he sayd that the tek is no good for ACRB...and now im reading here that people get cristals and good yeald out of ACRB from cybs tek....is it possible that the bark is not good ???
 
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#11 Posted : 4/18/2015 12:29:01 PM

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Dreamcatcher90 wrote:
so i sayd to guy who send it to me and he sayd that the tek is no good for ACRB

Your 'Guy' is wrong I'm afraid....

Dreamcatcher90 wrote:
...and now im reading here that people get cristals and good yeald out of ACRB from cybs tek....is it possible that the bark is not good ???

People get a nice crystally yield all the time with ACRB.

Is it possible that your bark is no good??.....very probably, yes.

Acrb can be high in NMT and give Goo OR you may need to perform a 'cleanup' tek after the extraction (such as a mini A/B) if you desperately want Xtals...
There is nothing wrong with Goo at all...just use it.


BTW: This thread is about Thick Light's A/B tek and not really the appropriate place for your question. Wink


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