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blackdust
#1 Posted : 7/25/2014 10:29:01 PM

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For the life of me I can not figure out what a mini A/B is. I have searched these forums several times looking for the answer. I have used the search function. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
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#2 Posted : 7/25/2014 10:33:29 PM

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#3 Posted : 7/25/2014 10:44:20 PM

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It's an acid/base extraction tek for midgets, dwarfs, and other small psychonauts.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/25/2014 10:51:43 PM

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okay,so how do cats do min A/B on saturated Naphtha?
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#5 Posted : 7/25/2014 11:06:53 PM

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3- Do a 'mini A/B' (mixing the separated dark solvent with vinegar 3x, separating the vinegar and discarding the solvent. Then basify the vinegar by adding lye, and pull with fresh solvent)

1. What is vinegar 3x? DO the process 3 times?
2. How much vinegar to add to the saturated naptha?
3. How much lye to add to the vinegar?
4. Is the old naphtha no good now?


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If cats understand this,
1. add vinegar to the saturated naphtha and mix
2. wait for the mix to separate
3. use an eye dropper to pull out naphtha (the spice is now in the vinegar?)
4. add lye to the vinegar
5. add fresh naphtha to the basified vinegar and mix
6. pull out naphtha and freeze?



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#6 Posted : 7/26/2014 12:13:57 AM

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A mini a/b is when you take your finished spice product and absorb it into a solvent, mix it with an acid(vinegar) to turn it into a salt leaving the plant oils and other stuff behind in the solvent, then you decant the solvent, basify the acid, and do another pull on it. It's call mini a/b because you dont need near as much acid or base to achieve your end goal as you would if you were doing it with plant material.

1. Vinegar 3x means you mix your solvent with vinegar, seperate the two, then mix the solvent with new vinegar again, add the original vinegar with the second vinegar, then hit the solvent with vinegar one last time to make sure it has all been salted and in the vinegar. At that point the solvent is generally cashed.
2. I've heard 15ml per G of spice is how much it will hold, but I think your best bet is it do 3 sets of 100ml. Of course its dependant upon how much dmt is actually in your solvent. Try and use about a 1:1 ratio.
3. Depends on how much vinegar you have. 5g per 100ml should be fine.
4. Old naptha has little to no DMT in it, but you can ALWAYS REUSE YOUR NAPTHA.

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#7 Posted : 7/26/2014 12:21:20 AM

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Thank you Du57mi73 Smile
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#8 Posted : 7/26/2014 1:39:55 AM

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The whole idea of doing this is to defat the solvent before freeze precipe , so it's totaly unessasery to rewash already freebase spice ! For that you do a recrystalization !

The mini ab work extremely well for ACRB as it saves wasting solvent doing a defat before the acidifying stage !

So just do you're extraction as normal then get all the naps from multible pulls then add naps to water ph 2-4 shake the hell outta it then remove old naps discard the add lye to ph 12+ It will go white strt away and precipatation will happen at this time aswell but just mix and pull with fresh naps then freeze precipe as normal !! Thumbs up
 
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#9 Posted : 7/26/2014 3:39:21 AM

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Mini a/b is also more commonly known as 'back salting'.

Also its not necessary to rebasify to 12+. Only 10.5.
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#10 Posted : 7/26/2014 6:06:49 AM

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Du57mi73 wrote:
Mini a/b is also more commonly known as 'back salting'.

Also its not necessary to rebasify to 12+. Only 10.5.



Who's gunna go ok 10.5 oops one or 2 grams of lye , argh shit better start again ! Please Stop
 
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#11 Posted : 7/26/2014 6:10:33 AM

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hahaha. well, you dont have to use lye to get to 10.5.
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#12 Posted : 7/26/2014 6:13:58 AM

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Du57mi73 wrote:
hahaha. well, you dont have to use lye to get to 10.5.

What do you use ?
 
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#13 Posted : 7/26/2014 9:53:10 PM

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Lye. But soda carb can be used.
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