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maranello551
#1 Posted : 4/20/2014 6:37:48 PM
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How well would this work?:

1. Freeze and thaw San Pedro chunks

2. Simmer chunks for 5-7 hours on very low temperature in water with the juice of a couple lemons

3. Strain resulting "tea" from chunks and add to remaining juice squeezed from chunks (discard chunks)

4. Reduce resulting liquid for however long is necessary (7-Cool hours until about a cup or 2 of liquid is left

5. Add IPA to extract alkaloids from tea

6. Evaporate IPA to leave resin (or crystal)

7. Wash crystal and/or tar with acetone (can you wash tar with acetone?)


Please help my FOAF figure this out.



 

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#2 Posted : 4/20/2014 6:45:28 PM

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#3 Posted : 4/20/2014 7:15:28 PM
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IPA is miscible with water so when you add it you wont get two liquids that separate just one liquid to evaporate so probly not much point in adding it.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/20/2014 9:46:06 PM
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Could swim use acetone to wash the resin? Would that improve anything?
 
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#5 Posted : 4/20/2014 10:06:02 PM

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IIRC, some of mescaline's salts are insoluble in IPA. I would just stick with water as the solvent, as House does in the tek which he linked, rather than IPA.
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maranello551
#6 Posted : 4/20/2014 11:40:44 PM
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Would an acetone wash after the water extraction help?

Any real advantages of STB over House's tek?
 
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#7 Posted : 4/21/2014 12:29:45 AM

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maranello551 wrote:
Would an acetone wash after the water extraction help?

Any real advantages of STB over House's tek?

An acetone wash may help, if you are looking for a higher percentage of mescaline per weight of your extract. Acetone may remove some of the other alkaloids.

The only advantage of an STB would be purified mescaline versus full-spectrum alkaloids. But this is more of a personal preference than an advantage. It depends on what one is seeking from the extraction. If you want are seeking the full-spectrum San Pedro alkaloid experience, then go with House's tek. If you seek a pure mescaline experience, without the potential influence of other alkaloids, then go with a STB tek.
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#8 Posted : 4/22/2014 5:31:05 AM

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Entheogenerator, could you elaborate a little more on pure mescaline vs mixed alkaloid experience?
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#9 Posted : 4/23/2014 5:59:59 AM
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That ^

From what I hear, the full alkaloid experience is more sedated and dreamy. I guess it would be like smoking some pot on top of pure mescaline?
 
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#10 Posted : 4/23/2014 7:56:52 PM

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My experience with full-spectum extracts is very limited. From the experience reports and other posts I have read, it seems that the full-spectrum extract experience varies a bit depending on the species of cactus used. I have heard reports that "sedated and dreamy" would be an accurate way to describe the experiences produced by most of the mescaline-containing species, but other subtle differences may also be apparent.

I have heard speculation that the other (non-mescaline) alkaloids present in Trichocereus bridgesii may potentiate the mescaline, but this has not been confirmed to my knowledge.
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#11 Posted : 4/25/2014 1:57:34 PM

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Not sure about other alkaloids, but some cacti contain significant amounts of pellotine, which was used as a pre-benzodiazepine sedative. So a full-spectrum extract may be more sedating than pure mescaline, depending on the type of cactus used - from memory L. williamsii had quite alot of pellotine.
 
 
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