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sauSage
#1 Posted : 4/20/2014 2:34:57 AM

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I took 30g of pulverized cubes (McKennaii) and soaked them in 250ml of methanol. The jar was kept in the freezer and shaken regularly. Once a week I'd pull it out and put it on my magnetic hot stirrer at 60C for 8-10 hours, then back into the freezer. On friday I vacuum filtered the fungus and put the golden methanol into a vacuum desiccator and ran it for about 4 hours.

That resulted in 3.8 grams of an off-white sorta yellowish extract which was added to 30ml of Grey Goose to produce what you see below.

Currently bioassaying roughly 2 grams worth and I can say that it is very active and very pleasant. No stomach upset, no gas, nothing unpleasant at all.

Mad thanks to Benz who got me this far.


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#2 Posted : 4/20/2014 2:35:56 AM

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someday i'll understand why my photos come out sideways... Mad
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#3 Posted : 4/20/2014 2:41:59 AM

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Fantastic!

I will never forget the time benz drank his rotovap extract with orange juice and just logged off immediately after. If I remember right that was 10g? Very happy

"I need to start trusting my abilities as a chemist" - benzyme
 
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#4 Posted : 4/20/2014 3:02:57 AM

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۩ wrote:
Fantastic!

I will never forget the time benz drank his rotovap extract with orange juice and just logged off immediately after. If I remember right that was 10g? Very happy


yah it was 10g of aborts... a very impressive dose for sure... that's what inspired me to do this tho. i don't have a rotovap tho so i had to make due with a vacuum desiccator.

no complaints with the results...
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#5 Posted : 4/20/2014 5:27:17 PM

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Aborts are no joke man!

They pack a wallop!
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#6 Posted : 4/20/2014 6:17:08 PM

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I had a memorable experience with a friend
once when we made tea from a colonized
rice cake that was stalled. We didn't expect anything to happen .
It took us by surprise and knocked our socks off
for hours. We still talk about that day .
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#7 Posted : 4/21/2014 1:43:09 AM

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A friend of mine made an alcoholic extract from mushrooms. It was left in a freezer for more than a year before the remains were given to me. The assumption was that it was not very active anymore, due to aging.

So, some other time I was going to trip with friends on mushroom tea. We knew the tea wasn't very strong and I decided to take the extract bottle to potentiate my cup of tea. I underestimated the potency of the extract a little as I boldly proceeded to add a sizable quantity to the cup.

I had been witness to the extraction and from the quantity of extract that I poored into the cup and consumed, I am certain to have on other occasions ingested more mushrooms than were in this amount of extract, but I was not prepared for the effects of this amount of extract.

The onset was much faster than normal, not a problem. But then the effects got weird, at first I didn't feel like I was really tripping, but I got open eye visuals like on ayahuasca and I felt as if I had also heavily dosed on harmala. Next, I started to sweat profusely, felt hot and cold, got very thirsty and nearly passed out a few times. I was used to sizable doses of psychedelics, but this I had not experienced yet and I freaked out, fearing some sort of serotonin overdose, also due to my suspicions about the presence of harmala in the extract (there were none in it though).

After the trip wore off, I was feeling incredibly tired, not physically tired, just mentally exhausted. After an hour or two, this feeling was gone.

Looking back, I hypothetize that the sudden massive influx of psilocin into my system swamped my MAO enzymes or some other part of the serotonin system, causing such effects that I had never before had from mushrooms.

My experience: extracted psilocin can be tricky in large doses, beware.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/10/2014 12:52:12 AM

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Hee hee. I have some etoh and vit C mixed with about 10g of aborts sitting in a basement cabinet to test out it's stability over time.

About 20ml gives a threshold experience for about 30 min. That was about 6 months?? ago. Need to test it out again soon, but the TASTE. Bleargh.
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#9 Posted : 5/13/2014 2:16:59 PM

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Agreed, the taste of a basic mushroom tincture leaves much to be desired. I'm not a big fan of spirits to start with, and making them mushroom-flavoured doesn't improve them any! I wonder if using a redissolved methanol extract (as described in the OP) is any more pleasant? Paulsage, how was the taste?
 
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#10 Posted : 5/13/2014 2:55:32 PM

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Anodyne wrote:
Agreed, the taste of a basic mushroom tincture leaves much to be desired. I'm not a big fan of spirits to start with, and making them mushroom-flavoured doesn't improve them any! I wonder if using a redissolved methanol extract (as described in the OP) is any more pleasant? Paulsage, how was the taste?


the taste really isn't an issue bc you're only using 1-2ml. i've put 5ml in a smoothie and didn't notice it at all. i've shot 2ml directly into my mouth and it just tastes like funky vodka. the most overpowering part of it is the odor, very pungent, slight after taste that's very earthy.

one area where i think i've gone wrong is the heating. per some recent research the whole "putting it on the hotplate" part is pointless and i shouldn't have been doing it. i think THAT is what is causing the pungent smell. the next batch i try this with will just be frozen/thawed several times and then desiccated. the methanol keeps a nice clear color until it's heated, the heat turns it golden. thing is that you really should use etoh at the end bc it trumps any remaining mtoh left in the output, and you don't want to consume any mtoh.

future batches will also be sonicated - once i source one final part.

I expect to have a full tek written, peer reviewed and posted by the end of summer.
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#11 Posted : 11/22/2016 12:02:13 PM

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paulsage wrote:
thing is that you really should use etoh at the end bc it trumps any remaining mtoh left in the output, and you don't want to consume any mtoh.

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I expect to have a full tek written, peer reviewed and posted by the end of summer.



hey paulsage, by using etoh at the end do you mean the last wash should be etoh or the last re-x?

also, did you ever post that tek?
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