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motorklok
#1 Posted : 2/6/2014 7:56:56 PM

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I can't tell what kind of cactus it is I'm seeing, I've looked on google images and it doesn't really help me figure it out. I'm not too great at identifying cacti so could someone please help me and tell me if this cactus is a San Pedro? Many thanks!
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#2 Posted : 2/6/2014 11:20:03 PM

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Im relatively new to cacti, but it certainly looks like trichocereus pachanoi (san pedro) to me!
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#3 Posted : 2/6/2014 11:47:26 PM

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Awesome! Thanks for your input!
 
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#4 Posted : 2/7/2014 12:03:26 AM

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Is it possible for you to get a few more pictures in some better lighting?
A few side shots and 1 or 2 from the top and at a shorter distance?

From here, it looks like the Pachanoi "PC" clone that's commonly found in California and the surrounding states.....

With better pictures I can help.

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#5 Posted : 2/7/2014 12:34:58 AM

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I can get some more images like that yes, but it might be a little bit before I can.

This specimen is in California so I'm wondering how common is this clone and does it have any of the same alkaloids?
 
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#6 Posted : 2/7/2014 1:18:53 AM

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motorklok wrote:
I can get some more images like that yes, but it might be a little bit before I can.

This specimen is in California so I'm wondering how common is this clone and does it have any of the same alkaloids?



Take a look at this thread:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t=52630&find=unread

I would certainly read the entire thing.... and then - perhaps the 3rd or 4th post down on the 2nd page has 2 links for pachanoi and pachanot. Click on those as well.

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#7 Posted : 2/7/2014 3:37:06 AM

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Isnt like 99.99999% of pachanois now pachanots though? Esepcially those from the US?
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#8 Posted : 2/7/2014 4:08:49 AM

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Were these pictures taken at night? Can you get close up day time pictures?
 
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#9 Posted : 2/7/2014 4:14:17 AM

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Thanks for that link it was very informative. I believe it is a clone after reading it but I will have to take more pics to be sure.

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Yes these pictures were taken at night with a poor cell phone camera, that's the reason for the terrible pixelated ness. I'll have to try to get more daytime images with a decent camera.
 
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#10 Posted : 2/7/2014 8:23:32 AM

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Close up of the areoles will help. Im pretty sure this isnt pc. Spines dont look it.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/7/2014 3:16:40 PM

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tizoc4u wrote:
Close up of the areoles will help. Im pretty sure this isnt pc. Spines dont look it.



Indeed, the bumps in the ribs are odd. More pics will help everyone out Motor.
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#12 Posted : 2/7/2014 8:34:54 PM

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It's so hard to say for sure without seeing the color of the flower pubescens. You will get different answers from different people. Only way to know if it's active is to test it. A simple no cook, minimal effort method to guage potency is to cut into pieces and freeze and thaw 2 or three times and drink the resulting liquids that are released.

Just don't go and rip someone's cactus though. You never know, it could belong to someone here if it's not yours.
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motorklok
#13 Posted : 2/11/2014 12:49:40 AM

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Ok here are some more images taken in daylight this time. These are also closer up. I'm sorry this took awhile to upload I've had quite a busy weekend.

As you said nicechrisman this is unfortunately not my plant so I won't be taking anything from it I only posted this to identify it for future ventures Smile

Anyway, thank you everyone for all your responses thus far and here are some more images as requested.
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tizoc4u
#14 Posted : 2/11/2014 1:46:57 AM

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Ive had some like the one u posted. But had to tea up 15 inches for a mild trip.
 
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#15 Posted : 2/11/2014 4:09:41 AM

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tizoc4u wrote:
Ive had some like the one u posted. But had to tea up 15 inches for a mild trip.


I see well then it seems as if this could very well be a clone, thanks for the feedback!
 
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#16 Posted : 2/11/2014 6:13:04 AM

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That looks like a pachanot (aka PC) clone, to me. I extracted a about 2.5 kg of similar looking cactus recently, and got about a gram of mescaline sulphate, so it was fairly weak cactus.

Once you see a real pachanoi up close (and for that matter, experience one by surprise...that's another story entirely!) it's fairly easy to tell them apart.

That being said, I could definitely be wrong. It may even be some type of hybrid, which are rare but do exist. If you know the people, you might be able to ask for a cutting. If you don't know them, you might try to meet them and see how it goes. Just a thought.
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#17 Posted : 2/11/2014 6:45:48 AM

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Hey motor,

Sorry to say that I think it's definitely the PC clone. I have one in my house. Real pachanoi tends to have these little creases coming out of the areoles, kind of looks like how you draw single-line seagulls on paper...? Yours looks exactly like mine. When I juiced it, (skinned, chopped, blended, boiled(pressure cooked), squeezed/strained, repeated 2 more times and then drank the tea...my wife and I had a great mellow lucid experience... Mostly because of all the other alkaloids present in the cactus, but when I tried a mescaline extraction, it yielded very very little.

If you're looking for a very mellow experience, with mild visual distortion and an overall enjoyable time, juicing it like I said above works great.

Good luck bud!!!
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#18 Posted : 2/11/2014 8:12:23 PM
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Mr.Peabody wrote:
That looks like a pachanot (aka PC) clone, to me. I extracted a about 2.5 kg of similar looking cactus recently, and got about a gram of mescaline sulphate, so it was fairly weak cactus.


If that was fresh cactus, 1 gram is not that bad at all considering most of the times 95% is water so only 125 gram dry. The PC is supposed to yield far less.
 
 
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