Everywhere I always see and hear that caapi/harmala alkaloids are the bringer of the aya/pharma experience, and that the admixture (in my case mimosa) is there to help the aya along. I personally much more enjoy the dmt side of the brew than the effects of the aya side. I like the mimosa being the driver and the aya helping with directions, not so much the other way around. Is that wrong?

Hi Glass Roots,

Like the name, it's pretty cool. :-) In my opinion there is no right or wrong. Finding what works for you is the most important. If one wanted to be totally traditional, I guess one wouldn't call any brew withot B. Caapi in it ayahuasca as it is the ayahuasca part and the DMT is the extra. Traditionally speaking that is. A name is just a name, however and I believe the experience is more important than the name. :-)

Personally, if I can avoid all the purging that the Caapi and Rue cause in big quantities, it would be a bonus.

your ayahuasca'ing is objectively incorrect

Thanks. I love plants and also am equally as interested in blowing glass. Glass Roots is going to be the company I use to sell both of them.

Just to clarify for both of you when I say aya I mean caapi, when I refer to alkaloids I'm talking about pharma. I'm not saying that I want a brew completely absent of the aya, but what I am saying is, I receive what I feel to be unneeded strains on my body from ingesting too much caapi/alkaloids (as you've said, the purge, heavy body load, ect). Rue is also not in my arsenal, but I have experience with it's alkaloids.

One of the first things I got out of aya was something trying to make me question myself about the purge, "Are you really getting something positive out of this?", "Does this really feel healthy?", "Really take step a back and look at this situation objectively; does this feel right or are you just trying to perceive it as right because of the opinions of other people and things you've studied online?" I know many people speak about the purge as being a healing experience, but I can't discern that for myself. I came to the conclusion that if it's avoidable to experience that ill feeling then I would gladly do so.


How so do you mean? If I consider a brew more focused on mimosa than caapi, should I refer to it as something different than ayahuasca entirely?

Right or wrong doesn't come into it, if that's what you prefer then go for it.



If it contains caapi then it's ayahuasca.

This indicate you did not had 'the' purge so far, but a vomit.
When having an ayahuasca purge you won't need to question if it brings you something or not, it will be darn clear to the bone you have been torn inside out upside down left side right and you'll come out differently, that clear

Just make sure you're getting enough caapi to make the DMT active.

I've never found harmalas to be particularly psychedelic in their own right. How does it change the experience for you?

Blessings
~ND

I may try aya in it's entirety some more times to see if what I've experienced so far has been a sickness in my stomach from ingesting the aya and not the purge. I don't know, we'll see.



Thanks for the concern, but I definitely will use enough to make the DMT active orally, possibly even slightly more. To me the harmalas/caapi make me REALLY think and reflect, which is the part I like most about them, but it feels like I'm missing something, almost like when you try to connect your internet and it almost gets there, but it doesn't. With mimosa added it seems like I just found out that I forgot to turn the power on to the modem.

But DMT aside, the caapi also make me feel drunk in it's own way, which has it's positives (feeling more relaxed), but it has negatives as well(motion sickness, vomiting/purge, ect). Combining the ill feeling in the stomach with the feeling of being drunk, it makes it harder for me to pay attention to the journey/car ride and makes me pay more attention to the big potholes in the road if that makes sense.

I think the combination of the mental side of aya added with mimosa is what feels right to me. Enough caapi to gain the mental aspects with however far I'm willing to go with the mimosa seems very rewarding.

i was entirely facetious.
i was hoping the would have been indicative of that fact.

my tongue was lodged firmly in my cheek, so never you fret.

Oh, hard for me to tell emotions/tone through a online message. I'll get the hang of it.