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Humble Hermit
#1 Posted : 7/15/2013 5:55:28 PM

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Hey guys, I was doing some reading of peoples yields/extract methods, and I kept seeing things like 400 grams MHRB = 1 gram of spice

Is this accurate? I was going to get 50 grams MHRB and do a STB extract. If the 400 grams = 1 gram is true, then I'd only get a few doses per extract. My recipe calls for 100 mg MHRB, and I was hoping that one extract would last me a while.... but it doesn't look that way. Some one please tell me that I'm wrong. Please.

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#2 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:02:40 PM

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what ive read says that 1% alks in plant material is about average
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#3 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:07:53 PM

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Doesn't really answer my question.
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#4 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:13:13 PM

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Yes it does.. 1% means 400g mhrb = 4g dmt. Whoever said 400g mhrb = 1g dmt has either bad extraction method or bad bark
 
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#5 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:13:46 PM


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Humble Hermit wrote:
Doesn't really answer my question.

Yes, it kinda does.

Average MHRB yields range between 1-2% DMT. Therefore, 100g MHRB = ~1-2g DMT (or approx. 20-40 doses at 50mg per dose). Scale accordingly for 400g.
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#6 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:17:04 PM

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all right, thanks. I guess ill just need more MHRB :/
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#7 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:25:35 PM
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If you do a good job with 50g, you can expect 500 mg, certainly enough for a few blast offs (considering I use 30 mg.) More realistically, with losses as you figure out your process, maybe 300 mg or 250mg.
 
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#8 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:32:26 PM

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Crying or very sad this sucks i just added up the cost for lye and a scale and mhrb and the total is over 100$ not counting shipping. I just don't think 20-40 doses is worth that, especially since I'll probably waste most of it figuring out how to vape.
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Crying or very sad this sucks i just added up the cost for lye and a scale and mhrb and the total is over 100$ not counting shipping. I just don't think 20-40 doses is worth that, especially since I'll probably waste most of it figuring out how to vape.

errr... comparing the nominal cost of supplies to the experience gained by 20-40 doses? Are you serious?

Wut?
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#10 Posted : 7/15/2013 6:40:54 PM

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no need to be a dick. i simply cant spare 100$ right now, thats all i mean.

Wut? yourself.
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buy some rue drink aya
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#12 Posted : 7/15/2013 7:30:42 PM

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Big grin thanks shadowman, that was actually what I was thinking Smile
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#13 Posted : 7/15/2013 7:37:34 PM

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Humble Hermit wrote:
no need to be a dick. i simply cant spare 100$ right now, thats all i mean.

Wut? yourself.


and no need to call anyone a dick... Please refrain from combative attitude even if you disagree with someone's posting.

And yeah, drinking ayahuasca or analogues will definitely be cheaper.
 
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#14 Posted : 7/15/2013 7:44:13 PM

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Humble Hermit wrote:
I just don't think 20-40 doses is worth that

Spice is worth more than money!

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I'll probably waste most of it figuring out how to vape

Vaping isn’t that difficult, you won’t lose half of it learning to vape.

Saying that – reality is important too. If you have little to spare at the moment, save it and spend it on something like bills or food.

Keep it as an extended project, spice isn’t going anywhere soon.
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#15 Posted : 7/15/2013 8:28:20 PM

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Big grin thanks d*l*b Smile That's great advice! I'll just set aside like 20$ per pay check, should get there soon. Also, it will give me more time to research, I'm still wondering what the best form of administration would be. I don't want to take aya because I'm afraid of the darker things in my mind. I wouldn't want that to come out, especially on aya. I'm thinking low dose pharma or changa xD

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Humble Hermit wrote:
no need to be a dick. i simply cant spare 100$ right now, thats all i mean.

Wut? yourself.

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#17 Posted : 7/15/2013 9:10:19 PM

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If you're affraid of dark things coming from inside of you and are not willing to face them, you should not consume any psychedelics at all...

If you're affraid but willing to face them, then that's another thing.

And whether it's changa, pharma, or aya or vaporized DMT, it doesn't matter much, those dark things can come out with one or the other.

A low dosage may help, yes, and so can a propper set and setting, but this is no guarantee you won't be facing what you fear the most. It can, and most likely will happen at some point, whether now or after a certain number of experiences. Whenever we take psychedelics, it's as if we sign a contract saying we accept all those possibilities. So think well before signing, and if you do sign, make sure to get all the preparations right before the time come, take it in a propper context and to humbly accept whatever may come, take responsibility for it, and learn from it.
 
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#18 Posted : 7/15/2013 10:09:23 PM

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what I mean by what I said is, I would rather deal with a bad trip that only lasted 10-15 mins, as opposed to the much longer effects of aya. That is all.
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If you're affraid of dark things coming from inside of you and are not willing to face them, you should not consume any psychedelics at all...

If you're affraid but willing to face them, then that's another thing.

And whether it's changa, pharma, or aya or vaporized DMT, it doesn't matter much, those dark things can come out with one or the other.

A low dosage may help, yes, and so can a propper set and setting, but this is no guarantee you won't be facing what you fear the most. It can, and most likely will happen at some point, whether now or after a certain number of experiences. Whenever we take psychedelics, it's as if we sign a contract saying we accept all those possibilities. So think well before signing, and if you do sign, make sure to get all the preparations right before the time come, take it in a propper context and to humbly accept whatever may come, take responsibility for it, and learn from it.

Excellent. I added this to the FAQ since it was not specifically addressed and your words are spot on.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...e#Fear_going_into_a_trip
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Humble Hermit wrote:
I'll just set aside like 20$ per pay check, should get there soon

I’m glad you like this idea, it really is worth spending time sitting back and doing lots of reading.

It took me several months of preparation to get round to my first extraction and I was very well prepared to do the job in hand. When I first grew mushrooms I spent a year reading, planning and collecting and that also really paid off.

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what I mean by what I said is, I would rather deal with a bad trip that only lasted 10-15 mins, as opposed to the much longer effects of aya. That is all.

I think the time you spend in is largely irrelevant. You may only spend a few minutes, as opposed to a few hours when drinking but your comprehension of time is very different whatever. You may well vape and think you have spent a lifetime away.
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