Hey all, I have an extensive glass collection, and my first though is to do the hot water changa method, using some mj as the erb. then i was gonna pack a fat bowl of it in my bong and rip it is that a good way to get to hyperspace? many thanks

peace

Yeah changa in a bong is a great way to go

I'd use something else besides marijuana...at least initially. It'd be nice to have as an option later- depending on how weed affects you. But then again you can always just throw some weed in with the changa/dmt if thats what you want. In any case, i would get a feel for how dmt/changa is on its own first.

Maybe use something like caapi leaf, mullien, etc, and make changa. For some of us, using only weed with dmt so much at the beginning of our work with it led to a bit of a crossover affect; where the anxiety that can come from the weed high sort of imprinted onto the dmt experience. Not fun, and it can be sort of difficult and take time to shake off completely.

Everyones different though...and others dont prefer weed + dmt for other reasons; for example it clouding the experience/recall

I dont usually mix them, but when i do its very very carefully and usually in low doses. For some reason if i smoke weed after dmt, there is way less anxiety than if i'd just smoked weed by itself. It makes weed much more enjoyable, and from that point it usually mixes great with dmt for me if done right

well Iv been smoking weed for years and don't get anxiety or paranoia, but yeah from what I've read it seems it leads to bad things, although it seems most of the people that smoke weed and dmt and have a bad experience don't smoke much weed and therefor are not accustomed to its effects. But I think I'll use 50% of my dmt in mint changa and 50% of my dmt in weed changa, so i can test both.

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I think you will find this false. I've smoked weed for many years and am well-accustomed to the effects. In fact, it was my first changa blend since I naively thought it would be a great combo. Not so...

Some people are okay with the combination. Some people advise strongly against it. For me MJ negatively alters the experience to make it unpleasant and fogged. Afterwards, however, I usually have a pre-rolled indica ready for the comedown contemplation period.

It's not 'bad' as you say but for me to have a clear and meaningful experience I save MJ for afterwards.

Look into mullein.

all right i think ill steer clear of mj, at least for now. but I don't want to buy any herbs of the internet (besides the obvious one) so are there any i can just get out of a tea bag or something?

Peppermint.

I suggest picking up a live plant and collecting/drying the leaves yourself. Though, organic peppermint tea from a bag should work.

thanks for all the great info A1pha

I've been using a glass gravitron hooked up to a freebase pipe. Works well if the right heat is applied. Its nice because you can fill up the chamber & take as much as you can handle. Best done with 2 persons though, the major drawback.

my favorite methods is : pinch of herb\ash\ spice\ ash

yeah fry i was thinking about that method, i read about it and i thought a good way to do it would be some herb at the bottom then ash then spice then more ash with a topping of more herb. the idea is your vaporizing the spice using indirect heat.

Hello Humble Hermit,

If your gonna use the sandwich method then you might as well just infuse some herb, its like the sandwich method but its much less hassle.

Just load it up and puff tuff

much thanks 3rdI I'm definitely planning on it

My preferred method is straight up in the old GVG, no hassle their.

i really dont want to spend the money it takes to buy a GVG i was thinking of making a Key V.2 as i have a bong with no stem laying around. any sugesstion on a cheap alternitive or cheaper source of a GVG?

http://silversurfervap.com/ceramic-flavor-disc.html
this is essentially identical to the silicon carbide foam device found in the GVG.

if you know a glass blower, or have something that you can get to fit in, it is a cheaper version of essentially the same thing (convection vape).

plus can be made to fit in the bowl piece of a bong - best of both worlds.

my preferred method is "the machine" or using a metal screw apart pipe from one of your local head shops, they usually have a small chamber under the bowl which keeps most of the flame from getting at the spice. hope i could be of help

also in making Changa a mild MAOI like passion flower is a good choice considering it is a lot more common than the latter

thanks guys, great info all around. But I think I'm going to go with changa in a bong. Seems easiest, as I have a lot of bongs (display) and I could spare a shorter one to DMT.

peace