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hobobrown
#1 Posted : 5/31/2013 3:23:28 AM

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I recently yielded tons of dmt from ARCB. I've been thoroughly convinced that changa is the way to go. I was wondering if the ratios of dmt:herbs would change because of what could be pulled from ARCB as opposed to Mimosa. I don't necessarily have goo (even though i've read that it doesn't really matter what the end product is, its most likely still more dmt than nmt). When I scraped, I had crystals that were on top of a thicker very gummy white substance on the bottom that eventually dried out for the most part.

Another question is when i redissolve the product for changa, will it help to evap the trace solvents that i fear are a by-product of the gummy stuff. The reason i say is because when i open the vial, i get a hint of what smells like naphtha.
 

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olympus mon
#2 Posted : 5/31/2013 4:24:23 AM

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Yes I would certainly let your DMT dry out more until there is no trace of solvent by smelling it. Sealing it up for a few hours and re opening giving a sniff is a great way to ensure every last bit is evaporated.

I haven't personally used acacia to extract from but from reading I understand that DET is present and extracted into your final product along with DMT. Some people use .5g DMT to 1g of harmala enriched leaf or plant matter. I personally prefer a 1 to 1 ratio but there are times the less strong changa is a good choice. Ie. introducing a person to DMT that doesn't wish to breakthrough, settings in which sub breakthrough visuals are the goal, safely combining changa with other psychedelics, ext.

Since Changa is so easy to make I would play with different ratios and bio-assay them all to find what you like best as well as broaden your knowledge and experiences. Maybe start with .75 to 1 and work up from there or even .50 to 1 if you enjoy a more mellow DMT exp. You may even end up using more DMT to leaf with Acacia. I aim for 1 hit breakthroughs using a 10 inch bong reserved solely for changa use.

Either away all three ratios will all get you to hyperspace just depends on how many hits you will need to get there. Too many hits needed from not enough DMT infused and you can get dizzy and feel nauseous from too much harmalas so i wouldn't go too low on the DMT. To much DMT and your body wont get enough harmalas to positively affect the experience or worst case its just too damn strong and lays you the F out.Surprised

I once mistook my 10x caapi leaf for dmt infused changa and kept taking hit after hit wondering why the dmt wasn't kicking in. Eventually I was spinning like a top and nearly purged from the strong onset of harmalas.Embarrased Label your jars, lol!


Remember, you can always infuse more DMT into the changa if you decide its not enough but you cant remove it.

Please let us know how things went. Tell us what ratios you used and your thoughts on the effects. Do you plan on using a water bong?

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hobobrown
#3 Posted : 5/31/2013 4:49:11 AM

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Wow thanks for the quick informative reply. I might want to take the product out of the one smelly vial that is basically in big chunks to dry. I've had the stuff in the vial for weeks since I've been too busy to deal with it lately. So I figure if it still smells like that after weeks, I might want to chop it up finer to air out more. I think I'll just start with .75:1 and go from there. So the harmalas can extend sub breakthrough experience, but does it also extend the actual breakthrough? Either way I'd like that I can have the option to breakthrough or stay grounded. First time I freebased it, I kinda felt overloaded and my body didn't want to let go, but this sounds like a good way to ease into it and accept it. Thanks again for your help!
 
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#4 Posted : 5/31/2013 5:17:31 AM

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No worries, Im glad to help. Wink

yes definitely lay out your spice on a clean glass plate and maybe put a small fan on it overnight. That will do the trick unless you're in a very humid environment. In that case you may need to use desecant to pull out any moisture. You can usually find descant packets or similar gelatin packets in natural food and supplement stores. Its the little packs you find in the bottom of medicine and vitamin bottles to keep the product dry.

Yes the harmalas will extend all the effects of the DMT experience. What I love so much about changa is how personalized you can tailor your belnd to your wants and needs. For instance, I enjoy a heavy harmala journey so I use 1 to 1 spice to leaf but my leaf is 20x harmla enriched rather than 10x.

I'm a hard head and need more higher doses of spice to breakthrough but also like to just take on big rip and lay back and be done with it opposed to fumbling around with lighters and bong slides for 2 or 3 hits. So my changa comes with a disclaimer label on it as its just for me or other that really wish to breakthrough.

I always keep an array of different ratio Changa's. If Im working with a person that isnt a smoker the strong stuff is better for them since they will have a harder time holding in smoke without expelling it by coughing If I'm working with a new person that wants to get wet slowly I use a .5 to 1 with 10x enriched leaf.

So at any given day I have at least 3-4 different Changa's.
.50 to 1, 10x
1 to 1, 10x
1 to 1, 20x
1.25 to 1, 20x, aka The Big Kahuna.

Its also fun to play with different smoking blends. Some of my favorites are Lemon Balm, Lavender, Mullen, and of coarse good ole Cappi leaf.

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hobobrown
#5 Posted : 6/1/2013 12:21:02 AM

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Yeah, Ill use a newly purchased bong for it. I liked throwing ice in it when I used to smoke pot. I'm guessing the variance of alkaloids from won't much difference if I ingest enough dmt, so i'll experiment ratios. I just got a bunch of herbs today. I got caapi, blue lotus, passion flower, mullein, and calea so far. Since I'm a beginner, is it really necessary for me to concentrate the caapi to 10x? How much more profound are the effects at 10x? How long do the effects normally last with caapi at regular strength? I was thinking of using a mixture of passion flower and caapi too. I'll use some dmt from another vial while the stinky vial of dmt dries out a little more. I probably have one of those silica packets laying around somewhere. Now, I guess I got some experimenting to do with these herbs.
 
 
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