Hello fellow travelers,

SWIM was wondering how to smoke spice out of a bong.
On the person's behalf i told him i would do some research however i am finding trouble getting definitive answers on the following:

1) When smoking free base spice out of a bong, with a layer of herb on the bottom and top (marijuana or tobacco) with your 50mg of the good stuff in the middle. How do you vaporize the substance without burning it? SWIM said they heated the outside of the bowl until it vaped. Any technique tips here would be greatly appreciated.

2) Water or no water? I have heard due to condensation that smoking a bong with water can re-crystallize the "good stuff". SWIM wants to smoke his 50mg in a bong with a layer of tobacco on the bottom and the top, with a bit of water in the bong, and lots of ice so he can hold it in much longer. Technique tips and advice on the best course of action for a relatively new smoker would be highly helpful

3) a regular BIC lighter? or a torch lighter? benefits/disadvantages and which is the best for beginner use when vaping the substance in a bong.


Any genuine feedback would be very helpful SWIM is looking forward very much to his blast-off experience and would like tips on how to maximize the usage through a bong

Hello,

Just infuse your DMT into a herb using IPA and then smoke it normally in a bong, its a pretty fool proof method and easier than faffing about with the sandwich method.

Edit. You may find that if you use water in the bong,
Spice vapour will want to dissolve into the water and you will lose some.
It shouldn't be too hot so there is no need to cool it.

Also I wouldn't sandwich with weed or tobacco...just use some herb like mint or parsley (dried).
The weed will interact with your trip and tobacco may make you sick.

Oh and search around the site...this is kind of old news.

Good afternoon cyb,

I never noticed any reduction in potency from using water in my bong, I don't think DMT absorbs into the water due to the short amount of time that the 2 are in contact with each other.

I remember reading a thread about it a while ago that said it would dissolve in water but it would take some time to do so. The wiki says almost insoluble in water.

Have you noticed a big difference between using water and not?

i have to say, this is so not true..well at least from my personal experience. i have always used a water bong and even if some spice is lost, its trace amounts i guess, as i always had consistent experience's with measured dosages.

Hey 3rd...
Just reiterating what I have read here, to be honest.
I forget which thread.
You may be right about the short time etc. the potency wouldn't be affected, just the amount of vapour reaching your lungs...but as you say, maybe negligible.

Thank you all very much for the quick replies (directed towards Cyb) My friend also lives in Germany with me and he was wondering if he could get mint leaves or any other herb to sandwich at local headshops, or a local store. Or is it only sold online? Sorry if these questions are redundant and a tad ignorant. I'm not extremely educated on smoking DMT

dude, regular mint tea smokes just fine. you dont have to go through all the hassle to acquire fresh mint, or mint leaves. you can use dry tea from tea bags, tastes alright.

when smoking mint, the smoke is smooth and leaves that minty taste which kinda cools your throat.

on the other side, you can wait for cyb to chime in , and get your prefered answer.

Thank for the input, i will definitely consider using tea bag leaves