So first of all I'm posted this in the Newcomer section to encourage new Cebil/Yopo/Vilca/Bufotenine users to read this this, this was an experience a friend had, during 2 different dreams he had, after I told him about the plants/substance.
I DO NOT ENCOURAGE TRYING THIS, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE ILLEGAL IN YOUR COUNTRY, OR PHYSICALLY/PSYCHOLOGICALLY IMPAIR YOU. Through study I have found that the actives in the above consist of, in highest ration by weight:
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Bufotenin (up to 12% of the seed weight possibly!)]
5-MEO-DMTDMTRARELY are these orders changed or reversed in these plants, but has been shown in rare cases.
Most of the above terms in varied internet sources are interchangeable most people don't know yopo(Ana. Colubrina), and cebil(Ana. Peregrina) come from different plant sources in "()" after the names. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW AS THEY ARE NOT EQUALLY AS POTENT - Peregrina is thought to be 1/2 as potent as Colubrina, and the potency of both depends on many things!First Dream: Preparation Experience:
8 Cebil seeds ground roasted, after de-shelling weighing in at about .9 - 1G. The seeds were ground and mixed with approximately, 1ML H20, and 1/3rd of the seeds weight in Calcium Hydroxide(Edible Lime), then mixed up thoroughly, left to dry slightly then placed in oven on a rack to speed the process JUST BELOW 200 Degrees was the ideal heat he mentioned. He weighed out what should have been the equivalent of 2 seeds. 1 1/2 Seeds were insufflated in two turns within 5 mins of each other. Effects evident within a few moments a heavy head space and body high no pain or nausea was noted, as he ingested pepto bismal 20mins to the insufflation to combat such a thing. He said he used the pepto pill for in his dream as the pink fluid kinda seems nauseating in and of itself. Mild sedation was also evident at some point within the first 10-15 mins, my friend also pointed out he didn't allow the powder to go to his stomach for a long time, the burn was not bad and he even rubbed it intentionally further into his nose by squeezing loosely and rubbing each of the nasal walls together(Assuming faster absorption), I made him aware of the dangers of rubbing tissues to add further irritation (Apparently I was in his dream).
T-20- Minor DMT like visuals were acquired after smoking cannabis(a few hits). MILD HARDLY NOTICEABLE CEV, Geometric patterns etc. Color enhancement during OEPOV. (MOST GUNK WENT DOWN IN A NASAL DRIP DURING THIS, AND THE REST WAS BLOWN INTO A TISSUE).
T-30- More cannabis smoked with the other half seed mixed in lit with a bic, and the hits were held like DMT should be long, deep, and if possible an extra inhale of oxygen after the hit to push all smoke from mouth and esophagus into lungs, this caused heavy sedation and lethargy again.
T-35- Visuals picked up patterning was noticed OEPOV and visuals more DMT like as well with eyes closed(brighter and more vivid but still fairly dull he explained. OEV also noted as weird shadowy things floating around in peripherals.
T-45or50- Visuals subsiding nothing much more notable other then really a pot eye and maybe mild tracers.
Second Dream:THE SAME EXACT PREPERATION WAS USED AND SAME AMOUNT OF SEEDS/BASE EXCEPT FOR A FEW DIFFERENCES:
DIFFERENT METHOD OF OBTAINING SEEDS:
He found them off a different tree
SET AND SETTING:
My friend has had some bad anxiety lately due to general life(work, relationships with friends, family, etc). He had been also experiencing BAD INSOMNIA lately past 3 days had a total of about 6 hours worth. In the days prior he had also dreamt he had done, Low dose MDMA/Shrooms and had a great time. Following day he used elemi oil in an experiment he read about and said he experienced something but still it lacks, and nausea was felt.
He decided however he wanted to do something on day 3 as well, and life always throws those surprises at you, as he was soon to find out, USING A SUBSTANCE IS NICE OCCASIONALLY, BUT ABUSE THEM AND THEY WILL BE ABUSING YOU HARDER. (Key words: USE Vs. ABUSE)
6 Hours prior to this next dream experience, before he fell asleep, he took 2 Clonazepam.
EXPERIENCE OF THE SECOND BUFO DREAM:He prepared 8 seeds as in his prior dream, and was going to insufflate and smoke the same amount, this is what he planned at least just a mild fun trip he thought. While the seeds were drying he decided to germinate some seeds, all kinds including HBRW, his recent vendor, when discussing germination mentioned she cracked them with her teeth to allow faster water germination and absorption. He tried this and just cracked through it, he figured oh well, might as well eat it, seconds later realizing it may add to the trip, but not worried off 1, as he recalls he dreamt before he tried 20 seeds worth of LSA extracted in alcohol and again with a better extract with only 5 seeds worth(MUCH BETTER TRIP).
Back to the topic... he tried to crack another after swallowing the first seed was chewed thoroughly to mush. Same thing cracked in half now it was unviable, so he ate this one too. (Cebil mix still drying he mixed this occasionally as well to allow faster drying). This occurred for another 3 seeds before he stopped pace and quit that method these 3 seeds were held in upper gum for sublingual absorption. By now the mix was done, he scraped it up and chopped it as best he could with a new razor blade.
Basically the same trip ensued after 1 1/2 seeds insufflated and the bowl of cannabis and last half seed was smoked, similar visions and feelings except he needed to point out, he also decided to stuff some more based Cebil up into his gum in an unmeasured but decent portion. So now along with the 3 LSA seeds some of the Cebil could be absorbed as well, And he figured hey why not might as well do his daily dose of Silene Capensis as well. So 200 MG of Silene capensis was added to his sublingual mixture and spread via finger around the gum, making sure none fell from place.
Within 20 Mins of finishing the deed effects were felt a strong come up of body high sedation was HUGELY EVIDENT continuous yawning fits occurred, breathing was getting heavy, and harder to do, palms were sweating, and anxiety was growing, he was notably restless and walked around a lot, this was an attempt to keep his heart rate up, he felt as if it was VERY SLOW.
Another 15 mins or so passed and he was getting nervous vision was getting blurry on and off, sweating pals got worse anxiety grew his motor functions started to resemble that of a drunk. Frantically he thought of ideas to slow the onset, he drank a lot of water first assuming the best solution to pollution was dilution, this didn't work and he quickly chowed down some food then later realized this was a bad idea and would speed the onset.
Another 10 mins pass, and he is exceedingly wanting to wake his G/F as he keeps being highly sedated with shallow breathing and anxiety and fear is leading him to believe if he sleeps he will stop breathing. He decides to wake her up, assuming she would be mad, (she has however had enough sleep she later says and wasn't mad) but he felt bad and added more anxiety, he rushed in and said he needed her help she needed to sit with him and keep him awake and tried to explain what he had done in an exceedingly difficult state, as his peak grew, and grew and grew he became more confused, never irritable but had this tremendous load of fear of impending death. He would about every 2-5 mins start crying uncontrollably for the silliest things, nothing even sometimes he was very clear headed no visions kept up except slight color enhancement. It was just surges of meaningless raw emotion breaking free, over and over, touch would also set him off, he kept wanting to lay near his g/f who was helping him immensely and highly understanding of the circumstances, she was frantically doing her own research while watching him (she wanted to know more about the substances he described). She is very smart and caring for this and he wanted to add a special thank you.
He wanted nothing more than to sleep away this horrible feeling just endless waves of torment it was like being perfectly clear headed (speak wasn't slurred, no visions open eyed nor closed, no audio hallucinations either), but having your head and everything around you just feel miserable (for those who have had a panic attack imagine the worst panic attack you can think of times 10, with sedation and shallow breathing/heart beat, crying in waves, with no reason as to why, then you start adding ideas into your own head as to why to try to rationalize this and only later to reject the very same thought. This lasted a period of roughly 3-5 hours he lost count and didn't ask his g/f how long, he just kept thanking her every time he wasn't crying for her help and explaining how much he loved her he thought he would never see her or anyone else, although she kept reassuring him he was fine, because he wasn't stumbling when he could walk(when sedation waves eased.), his speech was clear, she listed to his heart and checked pulse and said they sounded fine, multiple times might I add. After this period he eventually fell asleep his g/f later told him he woke up only once just to get more comfortable and told her he was feeling better just mild leg pains(this has been reported before but hes recently been going to the gym a lot and working mostly on his legs that particular night of the dream was in fact a heavy leg night for him. He woke up and still 12 hours after waking up feels minor discontent but a lesson learned means it can't be a bad trip a lesson learned he believes is worth that much. He just called it a difficult experience.
He believes the unwarranted raw fear and panic was due to just the immense stress hes been under lately. He has had a few panic attack in the prior weeks leading up to this event. All other experiences were very positive prior to this one.
LESSONS LEARNED:
*Get as much sleep as you can always days in between trip sessions, and let yourself time to calm down, integrate and relax.
*Always check potency difference in different seed supplies. (He tried to in the two dreams but his first batch of 20 Cebil seeds form new supplier got burnt so he didn't think to try a small dose of the new one first because when he tried the burnt one he didn't feel much)
*Don't abuse substances when you go in with no intent except to enjoy more often then not they will bite a bit, and this one bit pretty hard!
*I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT SET AND SETTING ARE, (IE: 3 Days lack of sleep 2 of which were spent tripping on other drugs and having a month worth of stress building up over time, assuming a 3rd day of use would be safe is unwise)!
*NEVER USE MULTIPLE VASOCONTRICTORS/SEDATIVES TOGETHER!
This might get more detail later but I'm tired, and done writing for him. He needs more time to integrate anyways. And sleep more!
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!
Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!