Hello, swim said he is trying another a confusa extraction, after the vendor he contacted about the bunk bark said it was one of the best sellers.

Anywas, he was wondering if this would work, also theres a few questions in here:

1) put bark in jar and cover with dVinegar and soak for a few hours
2) lyse cells by freezing/thawing inside jar 3x
3)pour jar contents into a simmerer, add dH2O and simmer for an hour, then pour offinto a reducer, but filter before
4) repeat step 3 about 4x, with the addition of about 1/4 cup dVinegar per simmer
5) reduce to about 3/4 of the planned extraction vessel (pH should be around 4 right? Or is that just to convert it into a salt? If so, i would think the vinegar soak would have done that already)
6) stir and pour into extraction vessel, while filtering again to remove ALL solids
7) wait for acidic solution to cool, and add a bit of naptha to defat. Stir. Decant and add naptha agian,stir, and decant again. Discard naptha
8 ) add NaOH slowly to basify solution *(to what pH?)*
9) wait for precipitate to 100% settle and carefully decant as much aqueous layer as possible, without disturbing the precipitate
10) add dH2O to about 3/4 of extraction vessel and mix. Let precipiate settle and decant
11) repeat step 10 3x
12) add just enough dH2O to cover the settled precip about double.
13) add hot naptha, stir, and decant naptha
14) allow naptha to cool to room temp. Wait for precipitate to settle and filter naptha. Then freeze precip the naptha


Will this work? And what pH would be ideal to basify Acacia comfuca with NaOH?

Any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks in advance

Also, should he skip the washing of the precipitate with dH2O?? It kinda sounds like a good idea

Annddd, theoretically it all makes sense to me. But he just needs a confirmation from a somewhat reputable source. Because like i said, the vendor said its one of the best sellers with repeat customers. So if this is true, its likely that swims doing something wrong

I like it it seems bacic i think half the problem with my 1st attempt at acrb i just tryed to do too much

I would be extremely greatful for a helpful reply.

Also, swims previous extraction from the same material yielded precipitate in the cold naptha, however it never stuck to the glass after like 2 days (maybe because it would be picked up like 2x a day to look at, and disrupt the preciping process?), and he tried to pour off as much cold maptha as possible, then tried evapping. He said he later noticed the precipitate was gone, and a clear, hard to notice oily substance remained. Could this be from the little bit of solvent warming up while evaping with precipitate in it, then dissolving the precipt again?

I would love whoever could help forever and ever

you lost me at step 9, but ph ~13 or so should suffice.

Off topic, but do you know if this is a phalaris? Theirs a lil wild grape vine behind it

Also the outside of the grass leaf is kinda fuzzy you can rub off

What i meant by step 9 and after, is just let the precipitate settle in the fb solution, then decant as much liquid off as possible without agitating the settled precipitate and refill with water; and do this a few times. Ive seen that done around here with harmalas. It sounds decent, but what do i know ha

yea, i do not believe it precipitates so cleanly in water.

i would think you would have to do a naphtha pull afterwards.

but my experience is with dry teks, so i wouldn't really know for sure.

Hmm well swim planned doing a naptha pull after he cleaned it up with water, if its possible to clean with water. Idk. I guess theoretically it depends on if the precipitate stays freebase while being washed with dH2O.

Also i cant send pms unless its to a mod. But ive read spirulina is and ive read spirulina isnt a good source of b12. Do you have a source you could post?

yeah, I would omit steps 9-12, other than that it sounds solid. ph 12-13.5 for base.

Would dH2O dissolve any precipitate?

Just seemed like a decent idea to me, and kinda cool hehe

So is that pic not a phalaris? It looks really similiar to me

Yes, skip 7 and 9-12 and you should be ok. I've done similar and ended up with OK results.

Also no need to filter with step 6.

Step 7 may be ok but in 9-12 you're removing water that has dmt-acetate in it.

For rock solid tek read thick light's tek thread

I think all the dmt acetate will freebase with the addition of lye.

The question is, would the water dissolve any freebase

Swim sayd he dont think hes going to do the water wash, just to be safe

Yes, the base liquid will mix with any water you add... hence the need for Naphtha (non-polar solvent pulls fb from aqueous solution)

as oldsoul said:

DO THIS:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=39030

Ive been reading that tek quite constantly and have been discussing it on the topic

I know the base liquid will mix with the water, thats the point. If it doesnt dissolve any freebase, one could essentially have a water/ fb alks solution, and it would make decanting of the nps alot easier, if the water level was a bit higher than the settled precipitate.

It all depends if the water will dissolve the freebase