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LackingLimit
#1 Posted : 4/29/2013 12:33:40 AM

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Whats up people of The Nexus? I plan on doing my first extraction very soon and I thought that it couldn't hurt to have my process critiqued by those with experience. Please tell me if you think there are ways of more efficiency or methods with better results in yield.

DMT extraction 1.

(2) 32oz. Mason Jars+
250ml. Beaker+
Glass Turkey baster+
Flat Glass baking dish+
A Small Pot+
Electric Stove (Hot Plate)+
600ml H20+
100g Lye measured+
100g Mimosa Hostilis (Pulverized)+
450ml VM&P Naptha+
Litmus strips (ph papers)+
(OPTIONAL: Sodium Carbonate for wash)+
------------------------------------Procedure

Add 550ml H20 to jar A.

Swirl in gradually 100g Sodium Hydroxide (Lye) and test with litmus strip. / (Basify to ph of 13)

Add 100g of pulverized root bark and shake vigorously.

Let mixture set for 12-24 Hours. Shake again. Let set for an hour or so.

(#) Add 130ml naptha to Jar B.

Remove lid from Jar B and set in hot water bath

Add contents of Jar B to Jar A and swirl well.

Let set for 12-24 Hours until Layers separate.

[ 3rd Naptha Extraction ]
~ Place Jar A in a WARM water bath. (30 min.)
~ Remove and let set until layers separate thoroughly

----( REPAT PROCESS FROM (#) 2x )----

Extract Naptha from Jar B using your Turkey Baster
and put it the glass baking dish

(*)Put Baking dish in the Refridgerator for 2-3 Hours. ( Encourage better crystalization)

Cover dish in selephane plastic wrap.

Move Dish from Fridge to (Very Cold) freezer and wait 12 Hours.

Switch back to fridge for 2-3 hours.

Return to freezer until next day

Remove dish from freezer and lift corner of wrap.
Poor off Naptha into a small jar and save it,
making sure not to poor off any crystals.

Reseal wrap and let dish return to room temperature.

Remove wrap and allow crystals to dry out completely in a cool place.

Use A Razor and scrape off Impure DMT crystals from the pan.

(OPTIONAL) Sodium Carbonate Wash

Put your impure crystals into Your Beaker.

Heat 35ml naptha in a water bath

Add Naptha to Beaker and disolve DMT.

Make a mix of 50ml H20/w 2g. Sodium Carbonate

Add mixture to Jar C.

Shake Jar Vigorously.

Let set to separate.

Extract Naptha and repeat Freeze Precip. from (*)

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Parshvik Chintan
#2 Posted : 4/29/2013 7:25:47 AM

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i would say it wouldn't hurt to add an acid stage prior to basing (especially since you are going with a 1:1 ratio of base:bark), for lysing the cells and what not.

this would certainly get the job done.

also, i do not think there is any need for the naphtha to sit for 24 hours with the bark.
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LackingLimit
#3 Posted : 4/29/2013 4:34:59 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
i would say it wouldn't hurt to add an acid stage prior to basing (especially since you are going with a 1:1 ratio of base:bark), for lysing the cells and what not.

this would certainly get the job done.

also, i do not think there is any need for the naphtha to sit for 24 hours with the bark.


Cool Awesome. Thanks a billion for the reassurance.

An acid stage you say? .... Confused . Please elaborate on this. I would love to hear just how you would do it and what effects this would have on the extraction as a whole.
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Parshvik Chintan
#4 Posted : 4/29/2013 7:51:57 PM

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LackingLimit wrote:
An acid stage you say? .... Confused . Please elaborate on this. I would love to hear just how you would do it and what effects this would have on the extraction as a whole.

what I would do is to just add a bit of acidic dilute (white vinegar works), until your bark is damp, add a tiny bit of water (to compensate for de-hydration - so if you have a lid, this isn't even really necessary), and throw it in the oven at 200ºF for a good 45 mins to an hour.

not really a necessary step, just something to help lyse the cells prior to basification (the more cell walls are destroyed, they more tryptamines you can pull out of the bark).
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TOXSIN
#5 Posted : 4/29/2013 10:09:52 PM

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I honestly didn't read the post fully because when I saw 100 Grams of Lye for 100 Grams of bark that blew me away sounds like way to much for me... for 100 grams bark I find that 3 Table spoons worth of lye in a large pickle jar with about 1500-1800ML of water is perfect for a 1% yield of STB mimosa extract.... 100 grams of lye sounds like way too much and if that jar breaks you're in for a huge mess and a lot of hassle. Where did you hear to use 100 grams of lye/per 100 grams of MHRB that just sounds like WAY WAY TOO MUCH, like I said frommy understanding 1% so 1 Gram DMT for 100 Gram of Root bark is a GOOD yield with rare yield amount sometimes going to 2% or 2 Grams per 100 Grams root bark. That much lye seems like it would make your solution way to basic. I also would be weary about using cellophane wrap to cover a naphtha dish I always try to use tin foil under the normal cover(if the normal cover is plastic), or just tinfoil if no cover for the jar you place to freeze precip. I feel the naphtha may pull something from the cellophane and contaminate your final yield. Also I agree with Parchvik, no need to let naphtha sit for 24 hours, you can but unnecessary most of the DMT will pull within usually 3 naphtha soaks, and usually within 3 hours ea soak. 3 Hours is the most usually I leave in for and again I get considerably good pulls each time.
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TOXSIN
#6 Posted : 4/29/2013 10:22:05 PM

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So basically my typical extract is done with a 1 Gallon Vlasic pickle jar, add 1500-1800 ML worth of water which is roughly 3-4 water bottles of distilled water add 3 Tablespoons(Never weighed this, but again 3 Tablespoons is all you should need) of lye, cap the jar swirl for mixing, and uncap to let gas exchange happen, as the water will heat up. Then simply add powdered(as powdered as possible). MHRB usually shreds into like 3 layers powder, fiber, and some still semi sold chunks. I find powdering it fully is not necessary. As I was saying add bark 100Grams as you said, Swirl this around every 20-30 mins for about 1-3 hours and then start your naphtha pulls. I've heard of people using STB and finishing within 4 hours in fact I've done it in about that time before, I was watching it like a hawk though not multi tasking. So do some research on STB(Straight to base extracts) but otherwise your recipe sounds alright. as for the naphtha i never measure this either just add about 2-3 CM worth into the jar. maybe 300-400ML a sa guess although a little more might not hurt.

Offtopic: Limit, is your name and avatar from the movie "limitless"? That super mind enhancing drug?
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

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LackingLimit
#7 Posted : 4/30/2013 12:13:59 AM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
LackingLimit wrote:
An acid stage you say? .... Confused . Please elaborate on this. I would love to hear just how you would do it and what effects this would have on the extraction as a whole.

what I would do is to just add a bit of acidic dilute (white vinegar works), until your bark is damp, add a tiny bit of water (to compensate for de-hydration - so if you have a lid, this isn't even really necessary), and throw it in the oven at 200ºF for a good 45 mins to an hour.

not really a necessary step, just something to help lyse the cells prior to basification (the more cell walls are destroyed, they more tryptamines you can pull out of the bark).


Wow, nice. Just what i was looking for. Thank you so so much Parshvik, more tryptamines more trips fa me! ... Shocked Wow, bad pun lol. It was off the top though. Laughing I will be trying this and I will let you know how it goes! 1 question though. What do I do after baking it? Will it again be a dry powder or do I just add it to my basified mixture in what ever form its in?

TOXSIN wrote:
Offtopic: Limit, is your name and avatar from the movie "limitless"? That super mind enhancing drug?


Yes! thank you for noticing Love lol. I just love that movie. I especially love the trippy sort of "journey" thing flying through places and objects at the begining of the movie.. (if you know what i'm talking about.)

Also, I was just going to use Litmus Strips and basify the water to ph~13. I will initially use the 3 Tablespoons you recomended to get me close to there. May I ask why you use so much water? I don't know it just seems like a lot to my 550ml.






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TOXSIN
#8 Posted : 4/30/2013 12:35:37 AM

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Well the water seemed to cover the 100Grams of bark and I roughly estimated that because I no longer need to measure after my first STB trial went perfect, I know by heart my recipe which is exactly as I told you the water I gauge by water bottles not ML and and its usually 2-3 full bottles of water so actually 1000ML-1800ML like I said its roughly an estimate but the water level should basically cover your bark in solution and then some by a little. (Again I don't measure anymore I know this by heart) and the first time I extracted I added bark into the jar first then my water then lye so this is why I know how many by bottle. Smile Every recipe is slightly different I just read about DMT and how to extract it for a good 5 years while growing up and actually trying other psychedelics to decide if DMT was something I was ready for it, when I decided I was I just took all my learned knowledge and applied it to my own recipe. Which I'm sure eventually is basically what you'll do and I'm sure everyone tweaked their own recipe a bit as they learned. Razz

And yeah the movie is real good I don't remember that specific part, but I remember feeling like thatmovie was based on DMT because I always feel not only more intuitive, smarter, and more capable mentally after a DMT trip but also my reflexes seem to improve. I've tested these theories accidently. Like basically I was on more one occasion about to fall off something (chair/log)... I like heights...Rolling eyes And it felt like I was able to slow down time or at least perceive time in a slower fashion and correctmy position in midair as to land on my feet. And again this happened more than once.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
LackingLimit
#9 Posted : 4/30/2013 1:49:59 AM

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Whacky story Surprised . I believe it. This molecule sure is mysterious Rolling eyes . I've been researching and exploring for a year now. I have no experience under my belt when it comes to psychodelics though Pleased . I plan to face this journey head on and experience this experience with utter confidence. I am absolutely sure that I won't expect what I get, but what is expectation at all? A predetermined idea of the details and in this case magnitude of certain aspects of a happening? How can one even have expectations for such an unknown experience? At any rate, I am confident about my decisions for the experience. I'll do it and do it right. I actually have a Glass Vapor Genie, some enhanced Blue Lotus petals, Caapi Leaves, and Calea Zacatechichi on the way.

I can't wait to test my final edited process for the first time and count up the statistics Drool . I want to take bits and pieces of what has worked well for others and make an A1 process to have stashed away/postec here on The Nexus for all to use. I guess i won't know if its A1 until i try it. Again thanks a boatload TOXSIN for the input, if theres any other tips or deatils you have please just post it up.
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TOXSIN
#10 Posted : 4/30/2013 2:22:40 AM

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Np If I think of anything I'll be sure to help out. SO far you're on the right track jsut as you seem toalready understand never anticipate the trip and once you do trip don't abuse it, as a psychedelic can abuse you back worse than meth. Theres a diff between use and abuse, and the thing with psychedelic abuse is 5 mins of eternity in your mind I would assume is almost worse than a month of physical withdrawls from a worse type of drug. So yeah use it not abuse it! Smile Btw I just recently started experimenting with calea....it truly is one of the nastiest tasting things ever.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
 
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