Isn't there a ayahuasca for every region?the South americas has its own,Europe has its own so shouldnt North america? I know about the Phalaris grass but thats just the DMT no MAOI.

Welcome!

I don't know what you mean when you say Europe has it's own. Can you elaborate?

North America has some great native enthogens. Peyote, and magic mushrooms being the most well known.

As far as DMT plants go, there's Desmanthus illinoisensis and Phalaris. Not much for MAOIs though. There are some passifloras, but they are pretty weak in that department from what I understand. I'm sure it's possible to grow Syrian rue in some areas though.

I dont remeber the one in europe but it's supposed to be weaker and different effects,not as visual.

i think the northern americans just had amanita, datura, and various mescaline cacti.

i am not aware of a traditionally used north american DMT-containing source.

however i do know that they found prehistoric amanita depictions in south america, so it is possible they traded entheogens.

Not that there's any history or tradition... but a phalaris and autumn olive combo might be *huasca-like. They're both indigenous to my area of the US.

Autumn olive although not native to the U.S. is definitely a contender .

It might as well be native at this point as it is so well established in parts of the country that it is considered
Invasive in many states.

Much more research is needed on this plant

I didn't know about autumn olive. I'll have to learn about that. Is it a type of eleagnus?

peganum mexicana looks like it might be a good native NA harmala source..rue also grows wild in parts of north america..as does tribulus. Russian and Autumn olive..both elaeagnus species that have been introduced..as well as elaeagnus commutata which is native to north america, found in many places all over the western hemisphere of both canada and the US and reported to contain beta carbolines. The wild phalaris arundinacea extract I sent to endless contained a beta carboline as the dominant alkaloid. Passiflora species are definatly doable even when you concider that you might need more of it..the stuff grows really fast and large yearly harvests are not hard to manage at all.

Keep in mind some beta carbolines might have entheogenic effects similar to other harmalas or iboga alkaloids while not being very effective maoi's.

If anyone has access to this it looks interesting..

http://agricola.nal.usda...=GKEY&STARTDB=AGRIDB

Jamie, i have access to print versions but that article was printed in 1969 and isn't available online it seems

oh..well damn that sucks then.