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ZenSpice
#1 Posted : 4/14/2013 11:27:09 PM

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It was to be my sixth attempt at breakthrough. I took 60mg loaded into a home made "machine".

I managed to get what appeared to be a mighty dose on the first long hit that managed to really filled my lungs. The elusive sweet spot had been found it seems. 15 seconds and I exhale quickly and hit the pipe again. With much delight the chamber filled with a mass of smoke indicating another massive dose upon inhalation.

Holding this in with a lot more difficulty than the first I got my first indication. Everything suddenly sharpened up and my hearing went ultra crisp. I felt like I somehow had found more space in my lungs though I had yet to exhale. I grabbed the machine and hit another rip which was as indicatively successful as the first two in its thick visual delight.

I notice while taking this last hit that the light from the flame and the end of my machine are starting to glimmer and go fractal, very much like the "slo-mo" scene in the Dredd movie for anyone who has seen it.

This was about 1 and 1/2 minutes in. I managed to just put the machine down on a table next to me before I slumped back quickly, to be greeted by the infinite wall of amazing patterns that from the last 5 sessions had almost become familiar.

I VERY quickly notice however these are far more solid and vibrant, way beyond any CGI I have seen in my life. Like some kind of magic eye picture, out of all of this a table/alter manifested, comprised of the same look as everything around it yet becoming more and more obvious, it rotated around and a vase appeared, also matching everything else around it chameleon style, as if it was all a constantly shifting magic eye world.

This vase suddenly 'hit me' with a wave of feminine sexual energy. Now I say sexual but it was not lustful or to be desired.. Just immensely feminine and powerful. From this, everything in my field of vision seemed to flip around on itself 180 degrees. For a moment, I did not know if I had my eyes open or closed.. I could feel them opening and closing and thought to myself "just give up worrying about it and watch what is given"

From there it just got crazy. I can account and ascribe to about ten percent of what took place in the following ten to fifteen minutes. The rest is beyond words to me.

I found myself back in my room but it was not my room, like another level of my room, a merging of dimensions. In front of me what I can only describe as a holographic pop up book appeared out of the ground and opened to display things that are beyond any comprehension..

I was in awe for what seemed like an eternity yet from the odd background noise that filtered in I knew it was nothing in "real time". After this display, which included a couple of "flashbacks" to other/past/alternate lives involving a person on this forum and someone else I know in the States, I found myself AS Buddha sat by a Bodhi tree watching all the temptations that arose in front of him as he sought enlightenment.

Now at this point I felt this overwhelming message that whatever Siddhartha Gautama did on that day to become Buddha became like a reference point, a co-ordinate of sorts for other souls to find and inhabit, in order to experience the same thing.

Suddenly I felt this voice in my head say to me "what do you see most REAL statues of Buddha doing".. With that I crossed my eyes slightly and was hit by some MASSIVE beam of light or something, I really don't know.. With that I was back in my room looking around but my reality was akin to that you would see on the film "A Scanner Darkly"...

I sat smiling and laughing at the fact I felt I had broken my reality, yet it was not in the slightest bit bothersome. Then, my wife very synchronistically came back down stairs and I fell into this deep pit of joy wherein I cried immensely over what I had seen, explaining to my wife that it confirms so much yet opens more and more potential doors of knowledge.

I told my wife I was infinitely happy she was in my life and someone who supported me in this endeavor and that should she ever choose to witness this it would be my absolute honour to facilitate the experience.

I think she may be quite enthused Thumbs up

I hope this comes across as an acceptable first report.. I know it doesn't follow a technical format however I am just happy I got down what I did. My head is pulsing just thinking about half of this hahaha Shocked
 

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#2 Posted : 4/15/2013 12:04:49 AM

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I like the title "They should have sent a poet" from Contact. Very apropos.
Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
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#3 Posted : 4/15/2013 6:20:04 AM

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ZenSpice wrote:

I found myself back in my room but it was not my room, like another level of my room. In front of me what I can only describe as a holographic pop up book appeared out of the ground and opened to display things that are beyond any comprehension..



I'm completely with you on that one. Welcome to the club of multidimensional holographic pop ups Big grin Cool

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I hope this comes across as an acceptable first report.. I know it doesnt follow a technical format however I am just happy I got down what I did. My head is pulsing just thinking about half of this hahaha


Your writing format is also quite acceptable.
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#4 Posted : 4/15/2013 7:02:21 AM

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Now at this point I felt this overwhelming message that whatever Siddhartha Gautama did on that day to become Buddha became a reference point, like a co-ordinate for other souls to find and inhabit to experience the same thing.


I like this idea a lot, though I think in some way we are all co-creating this space every time we allow ourselves to get that far. Kind of like the idea of the morphogenetic field or the idea of these different planes influencing each other. The idea being that every time a human experiences this state it becomes a tiny bit easier for the next one to get there. I also think that every time it's experienced it's evolved a bit, and infused with consciousness.

At least I like the idea.

Thanks for the report. You're getting quite nice messages from your experiences! Have you considered trying an oral dose yet? It gives you a bit more time and clarity to figure things out.

Cheers
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#5 Posted : 4/15/2013 10:22:36 AM

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Morphogenetic shield for the win.. I am very much down with the whole idea and notion in general.

I have enough spice that I definitely intend oral route sessions (combined with Rue or Caapi or, in time I'll try both). I feel a few more sessions with my machine and I will have to look into ordering more ingredients to go further for longer.

I get the impression that vaping is an amazing introduction but will soon lose its "charm" (for want of a better description) for doing any real "work" with the spice.

This is definitely about more than just a few pretty images for me Very happy
 
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#6 Posted : 4/15/2013 11:35:56 AM

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ZenSpice wrote:


I get the impression that vaping is an amazing introduction but will soon lose its "charm" (for want of a better description) for doing any real "work" with the spice.


I suppose some low-end elements do lose their novelty with repeated exposure, but the first rule of (vaped) spice in my book is that it will break any and all expectations, including most likely this one you have.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#7 Posted : 4/15/2013 12:30:31 PM

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Global wrote:
ZenSpice wrote:


I get the impression that vaping is an amazing introduction but will soon lose its "charm" (for want of a better description) for doing any real "work" with the spice.


I suppose some low-end elements do lose their novelty with repeated exposure, but the first rule of (vaped) spice in my book is that it will break any and all expectations, including most likely this one you have.


Upon reflection I'd say you are right, poor choice of wording by myself there perhaps..

I guess I kind of mean that feeling of awe in those first moments, those first few times hitting the fractal wall/chrysanthemum. I get the impression that if the initial "awe factor" can be overcome to some degree then MUCH more experiences and lessons potentially await.

I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong in my current line of thought in vaping also. While harmaline route seems very appealing the real life factors involved make vaping perfect. Though I want to show the spice the respect of a lengthier journey and not just constant "quick sprints" also.. I'm conflicted in these thoughts but definitely determined Laughing

See, I catch myself out again, referring to the other night as a "quick sprint" seems insulting to what I feel I received.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/15/2013 12:34:07 PM

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You'll probably no doubt find much utility from oral DMT, but I just wouldn't underestimate its vaped counterpart Rolling eyes Laughing
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#9 Posted : 4/15/2013 2:03:33 PM

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Congrats on your breakthrough!

Smile

I wish though we could find the words!

Even I've posted ' I cannot find the words ' because I couldn't !

Mmmm... Just interesting.....wonder if there are some systems
To learn to describe the indescribable...

I guess if people were doing paid legal research into dmt,
They figure out some systems.....

I too was in tears after my first dmt Experience....
 
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#10 Posted : 4/15/2013 2:09:45 PM

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Enoon wrote:
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Now at this point I felt this overwhelming message that whatever Siddhartha Gautama did on that day to become Buddha became a reference point, like a co-ordinate for other souls to find and inhabit to experience the same thing.




Have you considered trying an oral dose yet? It gives you a bit more time and clarity to figure things out.

Cheers


Do you mean aya? Can you advise more on oral dmt?
 
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Kurukulla wrote:
Enoon wrote:
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Now at this point I felt this overwhelming message that whatever Siddhartha Gautama did on that day to become Buddha became a reference point, like a co-ordinate for other souls to find and inhabit to experience the same thing.




Have you considered trying an oral dose yet? It gives you a bit more time and clarity to figure things out.

Cheers


Do you mean aya? Can you advise more on oral dmt?


Yes, ayahuasca is one oral method. Another related method is 'pharmuasca' where ingests DMT crystals along with an MAOI such as harmaline.

An amazing trip report, by the way.
 
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Many thanks. I have had two more since but have not been able to put into words..

Hence new mission..

Step 1: Stop smoking Cannabis on a daily basis and start with at least a one month total cessation of smoking it.

Step 2: Continue improving diet/health and meditate more.

Step 3: Get myself some Caapi, or Syrian Rue (dependent on what research indicates is least nausea inducing, as I have a dodgy stomach) and infuse into a tea to consume prior to vaping spice, approx 30-60 mins after initial consumption (whatever is most comfortable moment).

Step 4: Combine this (and standard vape only sessions) with differing times of day and set/setting and create a journal.

Step 5: Create a dream journal and see what types of synchronicity may arise.

If anyone reading this has any idea if Omeperazole will assist with nausea in taking any of the above advice would be most appreciated.
 
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I've experimented recently with Silene Capensis and it improved greatly my ability to remember my dreams (though didn't add much depth to them). I wonder if it would also have effects on remembering DMT trips?

If you extract the caapi there is little nausea without adding the dmt orally. If you plan to add dmt orally the nausea is not long lasting usually you just notice it until you purge once and that's it. I'd say the purge is part of the experience. Bring a bucket Pleased

And yeah, I've only tried extracts; only once tried the plant-brew and it didn't work, but this was about 10 years ago. With extracts I had some very successful journeys. Harmalas 5-10 minutes before the dmt and off you go.

harmalas + vaped spice don't produce much nausea IME and I'm very susceptible to nausea.

dream journals are great!
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#14 Posted : 4/17/2013 11:58:40 PM

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Just been looking at gibran2's Pictorial Guide to Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Thumbs up

I should be able to get some within 2 weeks hehehe Cool
 
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#15 Posted : 4/18/2013 1:38:30 AM

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ZenSpice wrote:
Many thanks. I have had two more since but have not been able to put into words..

Hence new mission..

Step 1: Stop smoking Cannabis on a daily basis and start with at least a one month total cessation of smoking it.

Step 2: Continue improving diet/health and meditate more.

Step 3: Get myself some Caapi, or Syrian Rue (dependent on what research indicates is least nausea inducing, as I have a dodgy stomach) and infuse into a tea to consume prior to vaping spice, approx 30-60 mins after initial consumption (whatever is most comfortable moment).

Step 4: Combine this (and standard vape only sessions) with differing times of day and set/setting and create a journal.

Step 5: Create a dream journal and see what types of synchronicity may arise.

If anyone reading this has any idea if Omeperazole will assist with nausea in taking any of the above advice would be most appreciated.


Yes, I have done all of these, and continue to. Quitting weed was the greatest thing ever for better dream recall.

Syian rue is my ally, and I never get any kind of nausea from it (8 gram teas don't phase me), but that doesn't you won't get sick from it, everyone's body reacts differently, just play around, see what works. (and I didn't start with 8 grams of rue, I started with 3.5 and worked my way up)
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jeez with 8g of tea I'd be floored. And badly nauseated. Even the extract makes me sick. Come to think of it, even the thought of it makes me sick... but hey, that's me. I guess I don't like the proportions of the alks in it. Caapi has been way more friendly for me.

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Enoon wrote:
jeez with 8g of tea I'd be floored. And badly nauseated. Even the extract makes me sick. Come to think of it, even the thought of it makes me sick... but hey, that's me. I guess I don't like the proportions of the alks in it. Caapi has been way more friendly for me.


Yeah, I'm a bit of an anomaly with many things. Caapi is wonderful, no doubt about it. It got too pricey for me, though, and rue is so freakin' cheap and agrees with me, I've just stuck with it. I still have to try traditional a ayahuasca brew . . . it's on my ever-expanding list.
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#18 Posted : 4/18/2013 3:07:09 PM

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lol If I was Harvey Dent I'd simply flip a coin..

Easier than the headflip I just got reading those last comments hehehe (in a good way).

It is interesting to read how things affect different people, I find myself resonating towards caapi but I am more than willing/happy to eventually try both routes.

Thanks for the brilliant read y'all.
 
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"They should have sent a poet."

That's exactly the scene I used as my reference point the other day when trying to explain my first breakthrough to people.
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