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#1 Posted : 4/15/2013 6:00:40 PM

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Iam trying to get q21q21's tek to work for the jimjam but i am not having success. I normally do Nomans tek and it works well for me, near 1% with one pull, second pull does not yield significantly. However when I follow q21q21's tek i receive no yield and loss large amounts of solvent. Im using xylene and pharmaceutical-grade calcium hydroxide with 5% acidic white vinegar and I am starting with 50g of MHRB pre-powdered, my consistency is stir able but has a slow poor like oatmeal or a thick pudding. I tried one pull 6 hours after adding the lime, using 125ml solvent (wish I used 50 or 75) , stirred twice over twenty minutes allowing 5-10 minutes to fully separate. Added approx 45ml vinegar to separated solvent and shook for 1-2 minutes then pipette off the bottom layer of vinegar into a separate container. Noticed solvent (xylene) quite milky white. Vinegar never had yielded. Tried again 3 days later assuming acidification stage didn't go well. used same xylene plus added more to make it 125ml (decided more for solvent loss?) and repeated process using less vinegar in the separation. Second pull is still clear. Does anything seem off about my steps. i noticed the final vinegar solution smells of xylene despite careful pipette. Any advice would be appreciated thanks. I am also going to try a FASA for next time.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/15/2013 6:04:03 PM

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I also did not use a heat bath at any time, if i try this tek again I will use one.
 
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#3 Posted : 4/16/2013 7:29:53 AM

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Uhh... I've run Q21 quite a few times, and never have I had to pipe vinegar from underneath xylene. Unless he's changed it up, you should have no need of vinegar once you add base to your stuff. It seems to me as if you're not doing the tek properly.

Bring your PH back to 12, get the mash to a good consistency and pour the xylene over it warm. Stir is slowly being careful not to let the solvent become trapped in the mash, and remove before it starts to turn yellow or orange (or keep going if you want the messy stuff). Freeze precip. or evaporate the solvent. There should be no need or practical reason to shake anything or add vinegar to your solvent. You should have no problem with the tek as written and no need to deviate from it.

If you continue to have problems, Re-try the tek using the "fluffy white funfest" method for nn-DMT only, and proceed exactly as the instructions suggest.

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