So I've been trying and trying and trying to get this to work but I'm really loosing hope.
Ive used CYb's tek with ACRB, VM&P, pickling salt, and extra strength vinegar. I've made about 6 trays with nothing at all in them. Ill break down what I've done (basic)

-Added powdered bark, vinegar, water
-freeze thaw 1 day in salt water ice bath @ 28*f
-heated 6 hours
-cooled
-added salt 55g and lye 55g after dissolving in appropriate amount of water
-let sit over night (cold)
-added heated naptha and warmed whole mix for 1 hr
-shook settled shook settled ect.
-extracted naptha. it was clear in the turkey baster but i put it in a jar to store and it was yellowish.
-put about 50ml into a 13x9 tray and set outside because i don't have a freezer. ambient was 28*f overnight. It was a very little amount for such a big tray.
-drained naptha quickly and fanned. A white "frost" layer formed but when i go to scrape it nothing comes up. it just kinda disappears.

i suck at this and my nerves are getting worn because i get my hopes up and NOTHING! I cant tell u my source because that's bad but it was from a big Esite and looked legit. I don't know much about this but I really cant see why its not working. Ive also got a few questions.

When i heat the bottle after i freeze it. I'm heating it in a crock pot on low because it gets to about 130ish *F. Is this too much? Should i reduce my time?

After each pull should i add more salt or lye?

How much can i put in a tray. Maybe if i add a lot of naptha and let it sit overnight that could help?

What if i added all the ingredients and let it for a day or so before adding naptha?

And im also having trouble understanding the heat/freeze stages. What exactly does freezing do that heat doesn't?

Please any advice would be great. I really need this in my life. I've been searching for a guide like DMT for awhile. Thanks again

*** this is a picture of about 6 pulls worth of naptha that i drained from trays that dropped NOTHING. I have been chilling this bottle in an ice bath for about 2 hours. when its not chilled it looks like slightly dehydrated urine and not cloudy like the pic. this is the holding jar i keep it all in before i put it on a tray




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it sounds like you're doing everything right, Ive had great success with ACRB using cybs tek. the only thing im not sure about is the pickling salt, i know nothing about salt, it may be that pickling salt has additives of some sort. I heat mine in a crock pot on medium for 8+ hours, you cant really overdo it from what ive heard ( heat wise you can, time wise you cant.) the only thing i can think of is it wasn't consistently cold enough all night, if you dont have access to a freezer you should just evap all the naphtha and you should get a reddish waxy substance containing a decent amount of dmt, you could then attempt to re-x this for pure crystals id imagine. The freezing is to lyse the cell walls prior to the heating, which further lyses, and breaks down complex proteins. If you're doing an extended heated acid soak an extended base soak is somewhat unnecessary.

What temp do you use. I would like to heat it for awhile but i dont know whats TOO hot. I've been reading your posts about acrb deadhor. Thats where i found the extended soak ideas. Thank you for that! Also that pickling salt is JUST salt that's why i got it,
So your only recommending heating for 8 hours at the acid stage. or can i heat at the base and thats it. Kinda one or the other?

I did an 8 hour acid soak in a crock pot on medium, idk the temp, CTM said it'd be somewhere around 150 F i believe. then i did a 3-4 hour heated base soak, but my understanding is you dont need much more than an hour or two if you've already done the acid soak.

10-4. my new gameplan is freeze/thaw for a day or two. then give it a heat soak at the acid stage for 8 or so hours. then a 2 hour base soak. Do you pull when everything is hot or let it cool then add heated nap?

are you actually shaking it when you put the naphtha in?? cause Ive read that can be bad, try lightly inverting the jar and turning it, then roll it around in your hands in a figure 8 motion or like you are pedaling a bike, Ive read not to shake it. I just did Cyb's tek with 2 50 g jars of MHRB and it worked out great.

Dont know about ACRB or what it requires, but cyb's tek makes no mention of freeze thawing or "heating for 6 hours" remember you dont want anything to be hot, just warm. I think i may have acidentally heated my first jar too much and it didnt work to well. First I add salt, then I add lye, and shake it up almost violently. Then I put it on just warm bath(not HOT) for 2 hours while mixing it up every 10 mins or so. I used no cooling at all in my process. I suggest following Cyb's tek to the exact directions, although im not sure if ACRB has these freezing requirements and a 6 hour heating time so I could be wrong.
I just did my very first extractions this week and jars 2 and 3 worked like a dream. All I did was follow his directions and measurements to a T.

Not sure about pickling salt, but a bunch of the salt at my stores had stuff other than just Salt. I finally found a box of Kosher salt that only has 2 ingredients Salt, Anti Caking Agent(and cyb's tek states this is fine)

best of luck to you bro, hope you're enjoying those tunes I posted the other day

Cheers, and good luck man! You will figure it out!!

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anyway... i got the freeze thaw from deadhor/cyb in a different post where they had been talking about better ways to extract from acrb. The salt is 100% salt that's why i got that no additives or anything. From what i gather alot of things are different with acrb extraction, it seems like there's a million different ideas and methods but i was trying to keep it to the materials i have on hand already. And yes when i put the naptha in i gently rolled it for a while as to not create any emulsion. I have my next batch in the heat bath for the next few hours so hopefully that will work out. Anyone else have any ideas>? I was thinking of maybe adding salt while it was heating up, like just salt not salt water. should i?

thanks for the support guys!

lol..

sure you can just add the salt, but doing it with water allows you to get a measured amount of saturated water, after a certain point the water wont hold any more salt and won't disolve into it. But from all that I have read, you really can't (within reason) overdue the salting, so i don't think it matters. Which yes you would add during your boil/soak or before you add the lye.

are you getting absolutely nothing in your naphtha? Maybe its your product.Also, i don"t know for sure but you said you use extra strength vinegar in the acid stage, maybe you need to add a bit extra lye to basify more,what colour is your basified mixture? these are my thoughts but they maybe wrong. Try not to get diss-illusioned if youve got good product the goodies are still in there somewhere

Was the bark powdered?

Leave all the naphta to evaporate, if you get nothing then your bark is bunk

Everything is under the spinning blades of a fan. the true test...

!! bark is good!! i evaped under a fan for a day or so and it worked perfect. i got some white and yellow crystals!!! thanks for the help everyone.

operation-
1 tray under constant fanning for 12 hours not covered or anything just open to the air. Worked GReaAT

There ya go...
That pic of the nappy looked FULL of DMT, maybe you need to evap quite a bit next time prior to freeze. What was yer final yield, if I may ask?

it was under a gram and that's about as exact as i can get. But it was nice white crystals mixed with some yellow.

The same is happening to me. I'm doing everything thing you did and with almost the same stuff, and would get nothing after fanning. Now I am leaving my last and final hope under a fan without draining naphtha and seeing what I can get.