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Is this Echinopsis pachanoi (san pedro)?????????? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 2/25/2013 1:43:07 PM

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hi!
I went for a trip with a friend and we found these (attached photo)
I am 90 % sure it is San Pedro but i am not sure .
ill appreciate any help.
thanks
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#2 Posted : 2/25/2013 2:06:20 PM
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do you live in south america? not sure where else you could hack down some sp- besides someones yard.....
 
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#3 Posted : 2/25/2013 2:18:14 PM

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It is san pedro. Now, as dg noted, I hope you just didn't help yourself off another person's yard. For a started the SPs in your pictures look a lot like cultivated cacti, not wildly grown at all.

Please explain yourself.




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#4 Posted : 2/25/2013 2:57:45 PM

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Absolutely no!
I live in Israel and it appears that the is a big field of them up north in noman's land.
I had some experience with SP so i was sure that it is that.
and i can assure you that i know not to go into other people gardens :-)
thanks for the quick reply.
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#5 Posted : 2/25/2013 3:04:15 PM

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Also i had a look about the best way to use it/
there is a lot of info out there, it seems that drying it and then use it or extract from it is a good way. what are your thoughts about it ?
 
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#6 Posted : 2/25/2013 3:06:10 PM
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nice haul man.. enjoy the ride

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#7 Posted : 2/25/2013 4:19:09 PM

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avFlying wrote:
Absolutely no!
I live in Israel and it appears that the is a big field of them up north in noman's land.
I had some experience with SP so i was sure that it is that.
and i can assure you that i know not to go into other people gardens :-)
thanks for the quick reply.
Alex

Thanks for the clarification, that makes more sense.

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#8 Posted : 2/25/2013 7:29:33 PM

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can i preform LucidLemonade's Sunflower oil TEK with fresh san pedro?
if cuted, how much time can be stored?
 
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#9 Posted : 2/25/2013 8:06:35 PM

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With that much fresh Pedro I would recommend House's tek because it involves only water. Here is the good pictorial thread:

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#10 Posted : 2/25/2013 8:55:51 PM

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I would root some of those tips so you have more cacti in the future.
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#11 Posted : 2/26/2013 12:46:37 AM
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avFlying wrote:
Absolutely no!



Hi Alex- sorry!
i shouldn't assume the worst- Smile

welcome

ps. live cuttings can be stored for weeks-months-years in a dry cool space
pps. semi wild sp in Isreal- very cool. would Love to see some pictures!!
 
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jamie wrote:
I would root some of those tips so you have more cacti in the future.

Amen to this. That's what I did with mine a few years back and I'm thankful I did. They grow like weeds here and I now have a lifetime supply because I didn't get greedy and keep rooting new pups!

Congrats on the nice harvest.
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first I would extract a few feet and see if it's worth planting
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#14 Posted : 2/26/2013 2:11:44 AM

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Nice buddy. I am doing an extract on some San Pedro right now.
Those sure do look like Pedro to me. I am no expert though. Lol.
And i agree with Jamie. You should root some of these. Have more cacti fun in the future. Pleased
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#15 Posted : 2/26/2013 2:13:18 AM

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[quote=John Smith]With that much fresh Pedro I would recommend House's tek because it involves only water. Here is the good pictorial thread:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=29818[/quote]
I use this tek for resin.
But if you are trying to get pure mescaline it will be something different.
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#16 Posted : 2/26/2013 9:47:27 AM

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thx everyone!
sure ill root them Smile for next generations of their famely.
im thinking of making a brew from it with abit vinigar, then adding salt to it, then lye, then sunflower oil, then to wait for seperation, and then to collect the oil layer, then add vinigar to it and to wait for seperation and then collecting the vinigar and try to evaporate/// something like in lucidlemonades tek.

waht do u think??
 
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#17 Posted : 2/27/2013 1:24:09 AM

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AvFlying, forget the sunflower oil tek, it is terrible in my opinion and can actually turn your extract into a block of cacti soap.. yes I said soap. Not to mention the possibility of bad emulsions.

I would recommend using house's chunk method to get a resin or manageable amount of liquid extract to work with. https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=8404

If you want to further extract that, you can simply basify with Lye, pull with a nonpolar like xylene or toluene, and salt out the mescaline with vinegar, hcl, or sulfuric acid in water. Evap the water and you have an extract. Recrystallize your product to get a purer substance if desired.

Gratz on the great find btw!Thumbs up
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#18 Posted : 2/27/2013 1:27:15 AM
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Kash wrote:
AvFlying, forget the sunflower oil tek, it is terrible in my opinion and can actually turn your extract into a block of cacti soap.. yes I said soap. Not to mention the possibility of bad emulsions.


do these things happen because you have such a small window of time to do the pulls?

i would do 69rons tek but theres no d-limo here in my country. and houses tek seems ok but id rather have something easier to dose rather than the resin

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#19 Posted : 2/27/2013 1:38:40 AM

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Kash wrote:
AvFlying, forget the sunflower oil tek, it is terrible in my opinion and can actually turn your extract into a block of cacti soap.. yes I said soap. Not to mention the possibility of bad emulsions.


do these things happen because you have such a small window of time to do the pulls?

i would do 69rons tek but theres no d-limo here in my country. and houses tek seems ok but id rather have something easier to dose rather than the resin


Yep. Through a process called saponification the oil with sodium hydroxide will form soap. There is actually a report on the nexus of this happening to someone. The resin tech is incredibly easy actually, as it involves cactus, water, and a small amount of acid. It can be further processed using methods I described above.
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#20 Posted : 2/27/2013 9:09:34 AM

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thx alot kash!
can i use naphtha as nonpolaR???
 
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