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JacFlasche
#1 Posted : 2/21/2013 5:01:04 AM

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Well SWIM did a microwave no solvent extraction that was supposed to give crystals but which gave instead sticky resin which SWIM dissolved in 70% ethel alcohol (this was about an eight inch section) After he had evaporated most of the alchol SWIM plugged a third of this still very liquid product in order to determine any psychoactivity. SWIM is happy to report a very unsubtle energizing effect and just a tinge of the incorporal butterfly dance. Of course since he ROA ed the thick amber juice there was no issue with taste or nausia. He has even eaten a full meal midway through the term of effects. SWIM would recommend ROA but only to those who are totally without prejudice with regard to that particular orifice and are not the types to make juvenile jokes about such; otherwise there may be repercussions and a psychic reckoning. It seems like eventually the people who post here will devise a super simple cactus extraction that is easily crystallized. It seems like it may well be almost all the way there, but not yet consolidated.

 

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AlbertKLloyd
#2 Posted : 2/21/2013 5:20:20 AM

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I would like to be able to start off by saying something like, "I have never been one to ignore intuition." But since I have ignored intuition time and time again I guess I don't deserve that kind of epigram. I will say that for some reason after decades with no interest at all since my last meeting with Mescaline, I developed an interest in cactus once more. For no apparent reason, I would like to add, that I have no desire other than to crystalize and perhaps bioassay such a crystalization, or maybe not. It's not like I would not enjoy such a reunion. But I don't do all the things that I would enjoy in order to do certain things that are of most importance to Me.

I remember the most wonderful experiences with Mescalito, but I am not sure at my age, if I can afford the downtime that such a physically draining experience requires, consciousness-wise. At any rate the syncronistic events have been none too subtle with respect to getting this thing in focus. I mean I wanted some cactus, and I found some locally that was hard to believe. If I go back there sometime and the house and gardens don't exist, I would not be too surprized. A goodly but exotemporal gentleman offered me any one of maybe a hundred potted San Pedro (He refused to talk about the plants in certain ways, and informing me about their precise genetics was apparently not one of them. He also would not tell me how old anything was or which plants he had the longest. Let me set the stage here by saying that he had a forest of 12' and taller plants. The one that I bought was maybe eight feet high with four plants of about a seven inch diameter (real thick).

Well I did a microwave no solvent extraction that was supposed to give crystals but which gave instead sticky resin which I dissolved in 70% ethel alcohol (this was about an eight inch section) After I had evaporated most of the alchol I plugged a third of this still very liquid product in order to determine any psychoactivity. I am happy to report a very unsubtle energizing effect and just a tinge of the incorporal butterfly dance.


I fixed quite a bit of it, I think you were hacked or something to make your post very hard to read.

I have read that when you put mescaline material in your butt (ER article) that it is active but less so than when taken orally for some reason.

Can you outline your microwave protocol? What was the "no solvent" extraction that is supposed to give crystals? I work with microwaves quite a bit sometimes...

Thanks!
 
JacFlasche
#3 Posted : 2/21/2013 6:18:00 AM

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Well to tell you the truth it was one of your posts that I followed.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=23972

I ended up with tar, but it worked out ok.
So thanks for the TEK, I would have thanked you on that thread but can't post there because of newness.

Actually I was hoping that you would sort of let me know where you latest posts are about this whole subject. You seem to be the only one that I came across so far that is using a microwave. I don't think it would have occurred to me if I hadn't seen your post about it.

I also saw that you had some other posts regarding the use of certain solvents that don't heat up much by microwaves and the advantages that you mentioned, not all of which I understood, but given the interest on my part I may come to understand them. I think there would be more hope for me if I could visualize the molecules the way you guys do. I am pretty geometrically orientated as opposed to more abstract formulations. It would be nice if you could direct me to your latest posts regarding this.

I understand that there a loads of people who basically want the same info, but I don't seem to be able to get the internal search engine here to perform worth a damn. I have been reading the cactus posts, and am presently doing a comparison of your solventless microwave tek with the one called the chunk tek and am right now trying to decide which other one to do, since I have divided my starting material into three.

I think that my goal is to have about a half a gram of x of some quality, that were produced with as close to food quality as possible. I am thinking that your microwave method with the right solvents, like you mentioned is the way to go. Although I am just guessing at this point. I would like to tinker around with it. There must be some kind of pyrex pressure cooking device that one could put right inside a microwave oven. If I knew as much as you guys do, I would get together with one of these companies that make food grade demulsifyer that they will custom compound for the customer. These things are for sale for the food industry to keep everything separated.

I guess eventually I will learn enough so that I know what to ask for. Or is this no longer an issue? Has the emulsification mess that I have read so much about been overcome? I experienced very little so far with the chunk method with the freezing, but it takes much longer and gives loads of water to handle compared to the microwave one that I copied from you.

I notice that in some of your other microwave oriented posts that you give the impression, that it is mush more beneficial to use solvents and the other chemistry with microwaves rather than just water. In the end what is your present idea on microwaving as you described without solvents or chemicals?
 
JacFlasche
#4 Posted : 2/21/2013 6:49:23 AM

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JacFlasche
#5 Posted : 2/21/2013 6:58:08 AM

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