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Donline
#1 Posted : 1/24/2013 10:29:14 PM

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Hi Ive ran out of Lighter Fluid... have found a

750ml bottle of "Bartoline"
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Contains (Naphtha (petroleum) Hydrodesulfurised heavy.
UN Number 1300 Turpentine Substitute

Contains Greater than 30% Aliphatic Hydrocarbons
15% or over but less than 30% aromatic Hydrocarbons

Evap Testing now.... Thanks for reading

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#2 Posted : 1/25/2013 7:17:36 AM

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I have heard about other people using this for extraction but I do not think this naphtha will evaporate clean. I would not use it my self.
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#3 Posted : 1/25/2013 7:54:40 AM

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hi, no it will extract a lot of alkaloids but it wont allow you to freeze them out.

It dosn't evap really, it will eventually but you are talking many days even weeks. What you have there is white spirit, you want white gas, clean lighter fluid,

if you are in the us get v&p naphtha,
aus shellite
uk u-pol fast wipe

elsewhere lighter fluid and perform an evap test on it, so it all evaporates with no residue.

Hope this helps

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#4 Posted : 1/25/2013 4:33:45 PM

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Thanks for the Speedy Reply...
I did a 1ml Evap on that Bartline.. Shocked 2hours+ evap! but no residue or smell Thumbs up

So ill leave that for a week outside (shed) and see what happens.

Ive already done a few pulls using Newport Lighter fluid...

I'm from UK... I was testing this in place of Xylene because I thought they were pretty much the same (Heavy Naphtha) Confused
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#5 Posted : 1/25/2013 6:09:16 PM

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infinitynlove wrote:
uk u-pol fast wipe


Is this the product you are talking about ? It does not say what it contains. Have you got any experience with this product ?

Here I found some feedback
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#6 Posted : 1/25/2013 6:20:19 PM

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smokerx, I know nothing about the stuff, but Here is the MSDS

[EDIT] Oh, OK...just saw the bit you added to your post. Cool

Incidentally, the Coleman's Fluid sold in camping centres in UK seems to be completely clean.
 
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#7 Posted : 1/25/2013 6:33:28 PM

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Bartoline (as well as B&Q which is also Bartoline re-labelled) is just heavy naphtha. It is usable. Whilst I only used it in a couple of experiments some time ago I found that contrary to what I had heard before that it will freeze precipate (perhaps not as effciently as light naphtha), I even worked with massive excess and still managed to freeze precipate.

Another way of working with it is to salt out to a smaller amount of acid solution, re-base and pull with light naphtha. Maybe if you are using acetic acid you could evap rather than re-base with NaOH or whatever you are using, I couldn't comment on that though as I have never tried that concept.
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#8 Posted : 1/25/2013 6:53:28 PM

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Limeni wrote:
Incidentally, the Coleman's Fluid sold in camping centres in UK seems to be completely clean.


I have used it before. Its ok and much cheaper then lighter fluids.
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#9 Posted : 1/26/2013 11:46:39 AM

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Donline wrote:
Thanks for the Speedy Reply...
I did a 1ml Evap on that Bartline.. Shocked 2hours+ evap! but no residue or smell Thumbs up

So ill leave that for a week outside (shed) and see what happens.

Ive already done a few pulls using Newport Lighter fluid...

I'm from UK... I was testing this in place of Xylene because I thought they were pretty much the same (Heavy Naphtha) Confused


if you are from the uk, get "U-POL System 20 Panel Wipe Degreaser Fast", its available in most vehicle paint suppliers, its pure hexane and is perfect for the job! is about £12 - £13 for 5 Liters! its quite inexpensive for what it is.

You could google it and find a local supplier Smile or just order it form ebay!

I wouldn't use anything else! don't use ASPEN4 its got benzine in it and dosnt evap totally clean.

Hope this helps
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#10 Posted : 1/26/2013 9:54:05 PM

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Donline wrote:
I'm from UK... I was testing this in place of Xylene because I thought they were pretty much the same (Heavy Naphtha) Confused

limonene is the only solvent that compares to xylene that i can think of..

but i think only xylene picks up n-oxide (maybe toluene as well?).
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