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Zeet
What you have is quite normal with an STB...
Some fats and full spectrum spice...
A Re-X when you're done will clear that right up.

I think you started with too little water...the heavy lye content and heat pulls a lot of 'everything'.
Too hot and too basified can pull sludge

Add Salt to the base mix and re pull another one...it will increase the yield.

Separate the Nap from the water... and freeze (the water may have just washed the nap of some yellow)

Have a look at my tek:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...brid_ATB_%27Salt%27_Tek

It looks very similar:

Don't worry...it's all good


edit: The sludge will contain some spice and can be smoked...some like it..(once dried it will harden and go waxy)

There's no toxic substances in my collection jar??? So the yellow sludge was just a mixture of plant fats and potentially some tangled DMT?

Great news though

When you said my base jar, I'm guessing you meant the lye-basified jar right?

I forgot to mention, but I added a further 100ml of clean naphtha to my lye/mhrb jar. Can I just add the salt straight on top? And how much, a teaspoon of salt?

Soo er.. my collection jar is currently half water, half naphtha.. should I just take the naphtha back out of the jar and commence re-crystallisation?

I could easily find a tek myself, but could you recommend a re-x tek that is newbie safe?

I hope you're not offended, I know I'm a newb, but I'm trying to learn

Sorry for the questions mate. And thanks for your reply




edit:

Also, thanks for your ATB tek link mate. I still have 50grams of shredded bark left. My next attempt will be using your tek

So...
1. Take out the nap from your mix jar into a holding jar..
2. Add more water to the lye mix ( if you have a litre jar...then around 700ml total liquid.)
3. dissolve 30g of salt in a small amount of hot water (mix it well)
4. pour salt water into mix jar.
5. Use 50ml of your existing nap into the mix jar and agitate/stir well.
6. Pull and freeze.
7. Continue 50ml pulls and freezing till no more crystallizes.(after the freeze)

try not to disturb your freeze...xtals need to grow and sloshing it around will break them up.
12 hrs freeze
then dry quickly with a fan if poss...the xtals will want to dissolve at room temp unless all the nap is evapped out of them...

Read the tek for a description of Re-xing.

Good luck mate

Thanks man, I didn't realise your tek had a re-x section! my bad!

I already added water to my lye jar thinking it was too concentrated (My instincts are that of a chemist!!!) It's a total volume of 750ml lye/water solution now.

Great ok, I'll do everything you said and let you know how it turned out ...

Appreciate the help mate

No probs...its easy once you've done one...just like making a gross looking milkshake

Just thought I'd let you know, I went out for the evening and night yesterday, when I came back to start re-x I got my jar of water/naphtha and to my amazement the naphtha was crystal clear! Even the yellow tinge had left.. which I think is not so good.. but atleast the naphtha cleared up.

The sediment lay on the bottom of the glass. The water was a slight cloudy clarity, with a slight tinge of pale yellow.

I drew the naphtha out and stuck it in the freezer to see if it would yield xtals now.

Checked it earlier and there was one large crystal on the bottom of the jar (after about 8 or so hours)

How long should I leave it? 24 hours? How exactly do I know when all the DMT in the solution has crystallised?

Sounds like the water acted as a wash and cleaned the nap of any yellow alks.
You can add a bit of lye to that water (basing it again) and then add a bit of nap and re-pull. It may turn up some more.
As for the one xtal in the freeze...overnight, 12hrs or so usually gets it all out...although if you want to see if it grows anymore...try another day.
It all appears to be working out OK.

Its OK for the nap to be yellow... and cloudy is especially good as it means it is saturated with the goodies
Also the reason why you freeze is that warm nap holds onto more product and very cold nap can't hold it any more...so it 'crashes' out of solution and forms crystals, leaving the nap free of product. It can be used again, so save it in a jar.

Well, that 'one large crystal' didn't turn out to be a crystal, just some off-white sludge. I poured off the naphtha and put the jar by a cold fan (As in not heated) and after about an hour the lump had dissapeared. Nothing remained in the glass lol. There was definitely DMT in there though. Smelt like flowers. But not enough to scrape out, and it wasn't even crystally anyway. Anything left on the bottom (Probably DMT because it did smell quite strongly of flowers) acted like gel when I tried to scrape it out.

.. lol..

Is it possible for DMT to sick into water? Because the water turned a really cloudy ever so slightly darker yellow colour. Exactly like piss colour to be honest. Or are the fats also that colour?

I think I'm going to have to call this 50gram batch of MHRB a loss. I've tried 3 seperate pulls now (3rd one is in the freezer now) and they just don't produce crystals. So whatever yellow stuff is in there is mostly something else. -shrug-

What should I do with my jar of lye and MHRB? Do you think it's been depleted of DMT?


And just to clarify.. the next time I get a collection jar like the one above (With all that yellow/orange sludge after freezing for 12+ hours) I should pour of the naphtha and stick the jar under a fan.. anything that is left after being by the fan until the naphtha smell is gone... is smokable DMT? or atleast smokable product as in it's not going to be lye or something that can harm me?

A few questions in there...
1. The 'sludge'...if it was not crystally and sort of roundish...it was probably a frozen water drop and evapped away.
2. Pee coloured water?...you mean the wash that you did? ... The yellow colour is probably plant alkaloids/fats/lipids...they can stain the spice. You can try to extract from that water (see previous post) but if it's a small amount then it probably not worth it.
3. The jar/lye mix...hmm if you haven't turn up any spice yet...you may still have some in there...make sure it's not too strong (lye) and that its watery (water)...if you think have used too much lye you could put a tablespoon of vinegar in there to counteract it.
Then start another pull with fresh nap...if you still get nothing after the freeze...then call it a day and start again with 50g's (use my tek). I find SWAN fluid to be better than zippo..and cheaper
4. Whatever is left after the freeze/pour off and dry...should be spice...if it's just gooey oily stuff that smells of flowers and Not solvent ... then you can wipe it up with some leaf/herb and smoke that...be careful though as you wont know the actual dose...Start small...very small.
You will know if lye gets in there (from the separation) because it stains the crystals brown..if that happens then you should Re-x to sep it out.
5. Go to Tescos and get a glass roasting tray...Much easier to dry and scrape from...only a quid.

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Only had a lightbulb vap and I know how ineffective it is. However..

I was extremely apprehensive, so much so that I ended up taking 1mg of etizolam (10mg of val)
After waiting 15 or so minutes for the etizolam to kick in, I did some breathing exercises and was feeling quite calm.

First attempt I tried a tiny amount, dipped my razor blade into the pile and pulled a couple heaps out.

Vaped it. It melted slowly and began to vaporize (I read to watch out for it turning brown, and that you just want it to melt into a puddle)

Not much happened. Didn't taste as bad as everyone says, kinda tastless with a hint of flowers.. (I don't know, but to me, DMT smells EXACTLY like flowers)

I deffinitely got a buzz that was above placebo. But that was all I got, a little buzz.

Went for a cigarrete.. worked my self up and thought fuck it, I'm going to smoke the rest of what little I had (In the image above)

Loaded it into the vap bulb and again gave my self a few minutes to breath. I opened my eyes and started lighting the bulb. This time I was more generous with the heat and really got it smoking, I knew I was burning it a bit, but I wanted to feel something.. anything.

I drew in what was in there, I kept drawing but more smoke kept coming. As I looked down into the bulb and at my hand, I realised I was getting visuals similar to mushrooms, where your hands look a little .. gooey and weird. I reached over to put the bulb down ( I was standing up ) and then it really started to come, I felt like I was excellerating. This warmth filled my body and I had this euphoric buzz coursing through me, like energy waves where corressing me. So relaxing and enveloping that I collapsed in my chair.

And that was it. It slowly dwindled after that.

OH MY GOD. THIS IS IT! This is the one! I know it! I felt it! Any other drugs I take feel kind of sinister and there's always anxiety involved, no matter if I take benzos or not.

This was something else, it was like it's own benzo, I didn't think a single anxious though, they all just washed away in the flow of energy waves pulsating through my body.

Oh god.. I cannot wait till I have a decent enough stash. And I am RIGHT NOW going to buy a VG!

Words cannot describe how euphoric I felt. I haven't felt like that ever. I felt like I was about to burst into space, but just didn't have enough fuel.

Wow. Just wow.



Oh, it also stung my lips and made them go numb.. I read somewhere this is fairly common, anyone know why? Is it the DMT itself or some other alkaloid or maybe the fats? It didn't bother me at the time though because I was about to die of euphoria.

And you realize how dangerous it is, right? I can't understand why people use this method other than laziness.

I had no idea about the dangers of it

It was laziness I guess, and lack of discipline to wait for a better vaping device.

Next time I'll be using a VG

Zeet...ditch the bulb (as you are doing) ...it is only useful for vaping bud.
You burnt the spice due to convection heating (not hot air vaping) ...this is what made your lips numb and caused the launch abort.
(You're looking for a big plume of off white smoke/vapour...)

So you've dipped your toes with yellow spice...
I would recommend doing my tek with another 50g bark, seeing as you've done one similar.
here.

Also Vodsels Approach to Q21Q21 is excellent here

Once you get some slightly whiter spice and a proper delivery method...start very low 10-15mg (size of a small grain of rice)
20mgs correctly done will send you to the moon...just be wary.

Another cheap smoking method here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=35040

Oh and try not to do heavy benzos with it if you can.

Wicked thank you Cyb

Soon I will be attempting extraction number 2. Going to use your tek to the T.

Also I'd just like to say, that machine you made is a piece of art! Does it work better than a VG or say an electric vaporizer?

Now that I've realised how nice it feels, I wont use benzos next time. I'm just going to plunge right in. 15+mg. I want to feel that electric pulse again, if anything else at all!

IMO Yes...As you can see the Vapour/Smoke...
VG would work very well but you can't see the smoke and have to trust that you are vaping correctly.
20mins and a trip to the high street £ stores will get you a machine worth trying...

I might just go ahead and make it..

What do you use for the wire pad? (Not the frying pan mesh. The actual DMT holder) I've got some brillo pads, but they're coated in pink powdery soap shit.. And the steel wool from shops would react and left of chemicals when burnt

Don't use Brillo...

Cut a piece the mesh up into a little ball...roll it up in your palms...burn it on the stove/flame glowing red (use pliers) and then wash under the tap whilst rolling it in your palms to free all of the bits.
done.

Well.. It seems every time I do a pull from my first jar of MHRB/lye, I get different product!

This time I had 2 jars of naphtha (swan) (Probably about 75ml in one jar and 100-125 in the other)

I didn't freeze precip it this time as I was skeptical that my freezer wasn't getting cold enough.. so I tried the evaporate all naphtha method.

One of the jars naphtha was darkish orange/amber.

The other jar started fairly dark yellow, and ended up quite clear.

It took a few days but what I am left with is two products.

The orange jar left.. a dark dark orange paste. Looks exactly like oil paint.

The yellow jar left one big layer of crystals on the bottom of the jar. Along with yellow product that I am familiar with from my first pull. When I tried to scrape it out I realised it was still really quite saturated. I thought it was water, but it had been evaporating for 3 days infront of a fan. After scraping it (Or rather mixing it..) out onto a dish and pouring off the 5ml of fluid that was left onto another dish. I realised it seemed to be OIL. Smells like lard. But .. planty.

What is also interesting is that the two jars had two different smells! One of them (The dark orange paste jar) Smelt like flowers. The yellow jar smelt like (as people have described) New sneakers.. or a gym or something.

I think since I have a larger quantity this time re-Xing might be a good choice.. Even though the product (From the yellow jar) is pretty clear!

A little update for you all lol. I'll update pictures at some point. It's quite pretty!