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My Solution to Solvent Loss for Q21 Lime Tek- 100% solvent retained Options
 
kisscarma
#1 Posted : 1/6/2013 8:48:08 PM

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First of all id just like to say that i think q21 is a genius for coming up with this Tek...i have had nothing but great beautiful fluffy funfests since i found it. Smile thank you.

My last extraction with half lb of mhrb i did run into a major solvent loss issue that i didnt have the first time around & im guessin that has to do with the consistancy of the mush which this time i decided to try a little thinner wetter version to see how it would go & my solvent TOTALLY dissappeared into the mush.

I tried the oven technique that was mentioned in a post i read where they put the mush on a cookie sheet and baked it on low for small intervals & that dried out the mush enough to where it looked exactly the way it looked on my previous successful Q21 extraction

Then as was also posted previously by swim i added MORE naptha then the usual specified amount and stirred it into the crumbly moist MHRB... The more i stirred the more the solvent seemed to dissolve into the mush again but not as bad, but i kept stirring because i had an idea this time on how to solve the problem if it DID disappear & it was about 20% of what i put in there still floating on top so heres what i did:

(You will need a casserole dish and rubber gloves)

Hopefully this is new info because i THINK i have read most of the posts about this issue and i have yet to hear of anyone trying this method to retain their solvent... but i put my mhrb mush into a casserole dish & tilted it so the crumbly mush was at the top... and like i said 20% of the solvent drained down to the bottom of the bowl.

after all the solvent drained to the bottom of the bowl, i put on my rubber gloves & set another bowl right next to the dish with my MHRB in it, and i grabbed up a handful of the mush (which at this point should be separated from the drained off solvent at the bottom of the downward dish)... and i held the handful of mush over the drained off solvent and squeezed it hard as i could with both hands, as if i was squeezing a wet rag to drain the solvent out of the bark and into the collection of solvent at the bottom. Then i put tthat handful of bark into the separte bowl next to the casserole dish & grabbed another handful of mush & did the same thing over and over until all the mush was now out of the casserole dish & in the other bowl... squeezed dry.

The bigger your hands i suppose the faster this process will be, but i think it took about 10 handfuls (i have small hands) and maybe 8 minutes at the most and i had regained just about all of the solvent i had lost, and if there was some small loss it wasnt very much at all because the jar i used to pour the solvent into it had the same amount when i poured it back in now laced with dissolved dmt. I think tho that may be due to the fact that there was ALREADY solvent in it from the first time i had lost the entire issue of solvent... but i dont know if that issue would have cooked off when i baked it in the oven or not so im not sure if i will get all the solvent back 100% all the time by using this method or not but either way its not NEARLY as short as it was prior to using this trick.

My yield has yet to be totaled up yet as im still extracting but just that one particular jar which was only about 300ml yielded about 2 grams of beautiful fluffy white crystals & ive got like 3 more jars in the freezer and at least 3 more pulls left out of the bark

So thats my solution & i hope its a new 1 that hasnt already been posted. Smile cheers.


 

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SeekerOfTruths
#2 Posted : 1/7/2013 12:37:46 AM

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The Q21 tek is a great tek for sure. even easy enough for grandma to follow Smile

I believe a few other people have commented on using a potato ricer and a french press to achieve the same type of effect (Quick searches on amazon will yield images). I usually find if the consistency of the bark is right I don't lose that much solvent to warrant a huge fuss over it.

P.S. I believe naphta eats rubber, you need to use gloves made for chemicals (usually sold next to Naphta)

 
ewok
#3 Posted : 1/7/2013 4:17:56 AM

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Sounds like a lot of work considering that once the consistency is sorted minimal solvent loss will happen usually for me its lets than 5% loss. French/coffee press would do same thing but much easier than by hand.
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kisscarma
#4 Posted : 1/7/2013 8:08:09 AM

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once the consistency was sorted???? i need to know how u did it then please elaborate.

But the post was actually for those that DO run into the issue of solvent loss w the q21 tek since theres a whole folder dedicated to that specific topic under that specific tek, BUT me being a new member am not allowed to post in that area so i just posted in the best possible alternate area i could find...

thank u for adding on to what seekeroftruths mentioned about the french press, i will be looking to purchase one in the near future.

and p.s. it was more work writing about it then actually doing it, in my opinion totally worth all the fluffy white snowflakes that i got in return!! Smile
 
ewok
#5 Posted : 1/7/2013 9:23:39 AM

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I guess getting the right consistency is trial and error, only so much pictures and words can explain. I've lost solvent before with this tek when to wet and also from being to dry. Once you get it once easy to repeat.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
 
 
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