my friend swim recently started playing around with this fantastic all natural extraction, and has a few questions.

he wondered if its possible to save time by following the first part of the tek mixing the cactus lime and water then the limo and doing this in 10 seperate vessels, so he could process a kilo at a time, then pooling the d-limo pulls into one large jar and mixing with the vinegar , so you would be adding six litres of d-limo to a container and 250 mls of 5% white vinegar 3 consecutive times.

would this be efffective? or would you need to do more vinegar pulls to exhaust such a large quantity of the d-limo

also some other clarifications on the tek would be appreciated.

for the first part when mixing the cactus lime and water, how long do most people wait before adding the limonene, ive read most of the 50 pages and some people seem to say an hour..

and secondly how well and for how long do people mix the d-limo in the cactus dough for? before leaving it for the 3 hours. it seems that to much mixing contaminates the d-limo slightly,

and also after re-using the d-limo for a second time it seems to go very green? is this a problem or can one simply use water to clean it up and seperate and re-use?

help and info greatly appreciated as i like this tek very much especially the
limonene , after using xylene in the past for jungle spice extractions i dont think ill ever go back!

bump anybody??

Dont Use Vinegar to salt...especialy a Kilo!!!

Too Much GOO and a bitch to clean!!!

If you want Mesc Acetate find some Glacial Acetic Acid...NOT Vinegar!!!

Use HCL ibstead (Muriatic Acid from pool store) cut with distilled water 2 parts water to 1 part HCL to make a 10% solution

Even better use Sulfuric Acid...Its easiest to clean by dual solvent(Water/acetone) recrystalization

And get a digital PH pen and Titrate...never let your PH of salting solution fall below 6.6 after adding Salting solution to D-Limo and mixing well

PH 6.6 to 7.0 is ideal for salting out Mesc Alks only leaving the non mesc alks and junk behind...

thanks for the reply

ok so if i bought 97% sulphuric acid, would i make up the same 10% solution as with the muriatic acid? also does it have to be distilled water?

and then use a ph meter to check ph doesnt fall below 6.6-7.0 , and use this to salt out of the limonene, so if i had 6 litres of limonene from a kilo of cactus runs, id use 250ml of the 10% sulphuric acid solution three times over, then evaporate

is this correct? and if so how effective would this method be at salting 6 litres?

also i imagine the evaporation part is a lot more dangerous and requires breathing apparatus and a well ventilated area, three quarters of a litre is a lot to evaporate.

and finally how many times would you recommend reusing the same limonene? as it isnt cheap here!

thanks for all the info.

yes distilled water.
never salted out from limo but from xylene its like this:
combine all the nps.
add a small amount of water- then slowly add drips of dilute acid. mix. test ph of water after adding of acid and mixing well with the nps.
go slow with the acid- you want to bring the waters ph down to 6-7

can you post a link to the tek that you used please dg?

and how much is a small amount of water? say for 6 litres of combined nps pulls.

and is the dilute sulphuric acid mix @ 10% ? and dropwise adding (titration) yes?


how do you monitor the ph with a pen if the acid layer is on the bottom i.e with limonene?

also how much shaking and stirring is needed to effectively salt out the alkaloids?
and how many times should this be repeated to exhaust the alkaloids from 6 litres of nps?

sorry for all the questions i just really want to make sure i get this right, all this is very new to me my only experience is with a/b extractions with root bark!

thanks for all the info.