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#1 Posted : 11/6/2012 10:11:32 PM

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Hi all DMT-Nexus members.

As we all know, the situation with MHRB is slowly turning from the light gray area into the dark gray area where law enforcement is cracking down on suppliers of MHRB.

Due to this we already started these two thread:

New subforum for suppliers of live plants and seeds

This thread is about the fact that the old suppliers subforum is gone now and that we will put the focus on sustainably growing the entheogens yourself.

[RULES] for the Sustainable plant and seed suppliers subforum

This thread explains the rules for the new subforum.

As you can read in the rules thread there can be no talk anymore about sourcing, selling, buying, acquiring, pricing, trading or smuggling entheogens that are not live plants or seeds. This also includes MHRB, so please understand that we have to move away from talking about sourcing MHRB!

Anyone who is interested in MHRB (or any other 'ready-to-go' entheogens) can use Google or any other search engine to seek for their beloved bark, there will be no more talk allowed about sourcing MHRB on the DMT-Nexus.

What you are allowed to do however changed and increased a bit due to the following:

* Talk about suppliers of live plants and/or seeds can be done in the Sustainable plant and seed suppliers subforum.

* Talk of other legal non-entheogen material can be done now in the rest of the forum. I am talking here about legal things like glassware, solvents (naphtha, d-limonene, IPA, etc), pipes, etc.

Currently we are researching quite a few plants that you can grow sustainably at your own home without too much hassle. If this all works out you will have a lifetime supply without the high costs so that will be a win-win situation for all.

I hope you will all understand this move and that you will join us by growing your own entheogens!

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#2 Posted : 11/6/2012 10:13:17 PM

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Thanks for the clarification Trav!

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#3 Posted : 11/6/2012 10:37:09 PM

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I feel certain this will turn out to be a large benefit entheogen explorers.
#4 Posted : 11/6/2012 10:41:04 PM

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SWIMfriend wrote:
I feel certain this will turn out to be a large benefit entheogen explorers.

Likewise. Good move.
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#5 Posted : 11/6/2012 10:45:48 PM

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Wholeheartedly agree!
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#6 Posted : 11/6/2012 11:46:18 PM

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#7 Posted : 11/6/2012 11:48:14 PM

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You're doing the right thing Trav. Thumbs up

Keeping out of the crossfire, and in turn, trying to keep us out, as well.

Not to mention, more education about living, growing entheogens. Ones that will eventually be in your own backyard! (Or greenhouse)

SWIMfriend wrote:
I feel certain this will turn out to be a large benefit entheogen explorers.

I third that.
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#9 Posted : 11/7/2012 10:31:45 AM

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#10 Posted : 11/13/2012 10:18:15 PM

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Thanks traveler I saw this coming that's why one year ago I started to grow my own also this will give u even more respect for the plant just being in the present of the plant feels good you know the power of it also u can lean all aspects of the process from seed to seedling too tree and so on Anyways Take care Smile

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#11 Posted : 12/13/2012 1:25:21 PM

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Maybe this spreading the seeds is a part of the plan eh?! Wink
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#12 Posted : 12/13/2012 6:18:24 PM

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#13 Posted : 12/13/2012 6:39:24 PM
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#14 Posted : 12/13/2012 6:46:20 PM

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Ash wrote:
MHRB isn't illegal

Actually, it is for anyone on this forum (in the US and many other places).

There are a number of ways to look at the decision. Protecting individuals from ordering an illegal substance and potentially being ensnared in legal ramifications, avoiding creating an itemized list of vendors of illegal goods that can be easily referenced by LEO, encouraging people to grow their own...myriads of reasons and the logic behind them have been discussed in threads that appeared around the time of the SS bust.
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#15 Posted : 12/13/2012 9:10:50 PM

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Ash wrote:
I don't understand why it's fine to talk about schedule 1 DMT, but not MHRB. MHRB isn't illegal, and talking about it on a forum about places that sell it isn't going to make it get banned. I just don't understand.

It's fine to talk about DMT and MHRB. It's not fine to talk about suppliers of MHRB, just as it would not be fine to talk about suppliers of DMT (e.g. if it wasn't illegal but was gradually focusing unwanted attention to it).

Hope that cleared it up.

P.S. Talking about a material that is being commercially sold as a "drug of abuse" or contains a "drug of abuse", and getting that material or the respective vendor banned is not something new. If you look into it, you'll see how selling Salvia became against paypal policy, despite the fact that it is not illegal anywhere in the UK.

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#16 Posted : 1/16/2013 10:37:12 PM

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Necessary bump since new members are continually ignoring the rules.
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#17 Posted : 1/16/2013 10:53:55 PM

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I would like to add here for newer members to please not PM me asking me about mimosa sources. I have simply stopped answering those messages but I continue to receive them.
#18 Posted : 1/17/2013 3:48:10 AM

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jamie wrote:
I would like to add here for newer members to please not PM me asking me about mimosa sources. I have simply stopped answering those messages but I continue to receive them.

This is a good point. As a new member myself, I did not check the Announcement area before getting frustrated that the "Suppliers" page did not include anything about Mimosa (I guess I just figured if the "Sustainable suppliers" thread did not have anything about it, I didn't know where else to look.) It's not that the site is not well organized - it definitely is - but as a new member just learning how to navigate, that was a little confusing. Luckily I had someone watching out for me and sent me to this page.

Traveler - is there a way to link this announcement to the "Sustainable suppliers" page or make it a sticky there? I think that may clear up some of the confusion.
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This seems like an irrational overreaction to me, but I probably do not have all of the information and it is certainly the safe choice. This is not my website so I have no say.

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#20 Posted : 2/16/2013 6:15:42 PM

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