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#941 Posted : 11/24/2012 6:04:07 AM

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.ps. on Paraserianthes lophantha, (see index and ID thread) now shown to be the closet relative of acacia..a world weed..no known chemical information..

below, a photo of a tree being sold as A. obtusifolia by a well known plant supplier..it is certainly not True obtusifolia! ..no doubt also good though..looks like longifolia in the family..
thank you to the trees..respect


there's a very sad looking Paraserianthes lophantha near my place which has been badly destroyed I'm guessing by both cars running into it and storms.. its in a carpark next to a coles. Literally half the tree has been torn off now..I've slowly watched this fella die its quite sad. no chemical info though hey? well this may be a good one to have a look at. There's tons of huge fallen branches with lots of trunk bark. its also releasing seed at the moment. hehe, when i first got into all this, I thoguht it was mimosa hostilis.. how naive I was. Every second tree such as melanyxon or longifolia I immediately assumed to be obtusifolia.. I never realised how vast acacia is.

and yeah I saw that image on google a while ago and didn't think it looked like the typical obtusifolia though
 

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#942 Posted : 11/24/2012 6:55:43 AM
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^..cool acacian..yeah while caution is advised with no idea of alkaloidal content whatsoever, this is a very interesting plant to study..common name "Cape Leeuwin Wattle"..
thanks for your abundance of positive radiating enthusiastic energy acacian, and thanks all recent threaders: Seldom, phyllode, b0b, Tom, polmos, Entropymancer, the Time Meddler and marzbar329Smile..and all threaders..i'll see you All soon..<3
 
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#943 Posted : 11/24/2012 7:34:31 AM

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the shaman rests in the acacia tree...



...anyone know if leopards eat acacia? i originally thought it was a jaguar, though it turns out to be the former
 
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#944 Posted : 11/24/2012 7:51:03 AM

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acacian man! nen's gonna love that pic! Very happy Or so instinct tells me. Like your emphasis on intuition Nen.
And I myself have been confused by the different forms of A. obtusifolia.
The great World Wide Wattle (it's not their fault, it's NSW botanists!) have for the species -
"Easily distinguished from A. longifolia by the resinous margins of its thicker, less pliable phyllodes. It fruits very rarely and appears to propagate principally by suckering."
THIS IS PLAIN WRONG! Except maybe as Nen said in that victorian outcrop. I've never heard of it suckering, and I've been to areas devastated by bushfires. It easily and readily makes and reproduces from seed.
And also, as Nen's alluded to, the form pictured on p11 is the clean one, and it's others that can have the whacky stuff in there. At least in my experience. Well done Nen for spotting all this!
Get it together Botanists of New South Wales!!Twisted Evil
Spotted a great thread a bit like this! Well not quite but it's all about Acacia ID in oz http://www.abcforums.com...?1623-Acacia-subspecies -
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If you move off the beach into the hind-dune forest, there is plenty of A. longifolia subsp. longifolia growing as well as A. sophorae. I can't say I've seen hybrids (but I'll keep a closer eye out in future). To complicate things further, we also have Acacia obtusifolia growing here and PlantNET suggests it is closely related to A. longifolia, so I imagine there may be a chance of it hybridising with either or both of the others.

Even wikipedia has for obtusifolia what looks from your descriptions Nen and to me like a hybrid. Attached:
Marvellous thread! Multi-level. I'm hooked!

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acacian
#945 Posted : 11/24/2012 7:56:04 AM

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acacian man! nen's gonna love that pic! Very happy Or so instinct tells me. Like your emphasis on intuition Nen.


haha yeah...this is probably some sort of acacia porn to nen
 
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#946 Posted : 11/24/2012 7:58:12 AM

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^Haha. I think it's all of our acacia-porn! lol
Oh, I at least worked out nen888 wrote:
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Wink ∂ ∆ Ω Do I get a pdf? Smile
 
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#947 Posted : 11/24/2012 8:08:15 AM

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I feel compelled to add, on Acacia obtusifolia that I have seen the Graveyards people talk about on other sites with my own eyesShocked . It's been like a martyr. She needs care not stripping right now!!

A really great tree to grow. And then you can be sure what variety you're getting.

EDIT Didn't want to finish on a negative sounding note. It's great this tree exists!
 
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#948 Posted : 11/24/2012 8:32:36 AM

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I hear you Meddling Monk. It's hard Not to express some things. Like Nen said on page something "the Horror."
And I'm normally the protestor on the site I think you meanSmile.
It's also great that so many other teacher acacias exist too!
I noticed Acacia simsii is being grown as a school shade tree, and is very very easy to get at nurseries.
"The Lost Thoughful Tree" sounds lovely. Now we've just got to work out if It has subspecies! Oh the joy!
Heres another simsii photo. I like the look of the phyllodes. Good porn! Laughing Especially from the fiendish AcacianRazz .
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#949 Posted : 11/25/2012 10:53:31 PM
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..haha..i always considered this to be a very family friendly thread, but a UK friend tells me they can't access the Nexus images at home (despite having joined up) as their provider has an adult content filter..so, indeed the DMT-Nexus is XXX-rated material to some!Laughing ..and good one monk, yes, sure..there's still an equal 1st pdf to go..

..i have slightly corrected the A. obtusifolia sub-species 'work key' here..

..and do love the pussy pic acacian thanks..exactly what was going on for me as you posted it..Very happy ..thanks also 'bluebird' Pleased..
acacian, you mentioned some species not having many web images..this is true really of the majority of acacias, but as you say true also of some well known ones..simplex is a good example (back to the islands!)

i spotted some more images of Acacia simplex (simplicfolia) in Vanuatu..it should be noted that a variety of supposed A. simplicifolia growing in northern australia (photo by Mulga on web) is very different to the island form, and i'm still doubting it's identity..being highly salt tolerant, simplex is a versatile and highly recommended species to grow in warmer or coastal regions of the world..it is very common on a number of pacific islands..
will look into ethno-medicinal usage in the future..[Pics 1-3 2006 thread; 4 & 5 from french botanical blog]
below "Martaoui"..
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#950 Posted : 11/25/2012 11:44:33 PM

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Thanks for the images nen.. I love those luscious cup shaped phyllodes...would be good spoons! I actually saw these over at corroboree .. as wel as an interesting unidentified acacia below them.. any ideas on that one? looks a lot like maidenii



a XXX filter.. wonder if it was beacuse of the leapard...or the devilish acacia tree that it lay in.. that may be a sight for many sore eyes. mwahahahhahaha Twisted Evil
 
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#951 Posted : 11/25/2012 11:59:13 PM
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^..that's the mysterious and lovely Acacia spirobis..
i didn't link the thread the first 3 pics are from because the info in it (other than op) is so inaccurate and off the mark! ..note, though, the interesting fungus friends on the trunk in the first one..
 
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#952 Posted : 11/26/2012 1:08:05 AM

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i'll be in Vanuatu over christmas! .. fuck yeah.

more on the morphogenetic characteristics of trees with tryptamines, i've only ever had 1 real success with phyllodes and try to avoid using them if i can, but most of i've been gifted with was from inner branch bark that is of a deep red colour, and has a strong acacia scent plus what i seems to be a petrol-like odour. Geological traits the western side of mountains formed through particular types of volcanic activity seem to provide the best conditions.


where i am we have acacia juncafolia just finished flowering, notice a few of its relatives with the long thin phyllode + ball flower acacias have the stamp of undisclosed alkaloids in the old csiro papers, wish i had more time.


nen888 (or anyone else) what do you think the consequences of releasing this list of 151 trees would be?

if you had (or do have?) it, would you do it?




p.s - if you read the recent threads by The Traveller you'll see uploading extraction photos here as attachments is a lot safer than using imageshack

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#953 Posted : 11/26/2012 3:10:48 AM
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Seldom wrote:
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more on the morphogenetic characteristics of trees with tryptamines, i've only ever had 1 real success with phyllodes and try to avoid using them if i can, but most of i've been gifted with was from inner branch bark that is of a deep red colour


..my first question, but i don't want too specific an answer, is what species do you mean you haven't had success with phyllodes?
..ok, if you mean acacia obtusifolia subtropical variety growing on rhyolite, then it has almost no alkaloids in the phyllodes (0.07%) and about 0.15-0.3% in branch bark/trunk bark, elsewhere (different forms, not on rhyolite) then you will more often than not get a high % in the phyllodes (as confirmed by multiple sources) ..it is possible the northern victorian form is different again..A. acuminata i have never heard of a low % in phyllodes..A. maidenii 4 out of 9 tested strains i know of where high phyllode %..if you mean A. floribunda there should almost always be something in there..
..the phyllode results sent to endlessness for testing were both quick, fairly easy, and 'usual' over years of comparing small samples..
..and yes, branch bark/twig AND phyllodes (don't waste) i think is the best, personally..of any option on the tree..
but no-one should be wild-harvesting anymore..!
but, the deep red colour can be in non-tryptamine species..it's more tannin/flavonoid related..
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nen888 (or anyone else) what do you think the consequences of releasing this list of 151 trees would be?

if you had (or do have?) it, would you do it?
..i've seen a couple of lists over the years i've been asked not to risk the source , so that's the main reason i wouldn't, but if someone anonymously leaked the 151 list (i know where it is) i'd be relieved..it would further decrease chances of any particular species being over-exploited, or specific ecosystems being pillaged..only if a species was considered under threat/Endangered would i not release the info..there are 4 species i have not put the names of in this thread for that reason..



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p.s - if you read the recent threads by The Traveller you'll see uploading extraction photos here as attachments is a lot safer than using imageshack
..yeah and uploading puts the images in the nexus hard drives so they don't disappear..
speaking of extraction (or not), see next post Smile..
be well Seldom..enjoy your holiday on behalf of the rest of us!
 
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#954 Posted : 11/26/2012 3:24:45 AM
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..this i hope is a last word for now on extraction in this thread (which has had a lot of coverage earlier)
as we now have the acacia extraction workspace..
a recent question and answer in there (#36-#37) has prompted me to say the following:

..why do you ask this? can you hypothesise why or why not hot would be good for the NP solvent?

after a little practice, to follow teks without understanding why each step is done is to remain disconnected still from understanding..

and because a tek step is parroted around all over the net..so what? is there a reason given for the particular step..?

if you follow a cookbook to the exact measurement etc. doesn't mean you'll end up with a souffle like in the picture..

find your own method and understand it..experiment if something's not working..
but at all points in both the Jim de Korne and nen methods, and most scientific extractions, the NP stage is cool..

..now, more than enough ye know now acacians..Wink
 
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what species do you mean you haven't had success with phyllodes?
..ok, if you mean Acacia obtusifolia subtropical variety growing on rhyolite, then it has almost no alkaloids in the phyllodes (0.07%) and about 0.15-0.3% in branch bark/trunk bark..


Laughing i've only ever even seen obtusifolia once on a trip to the coast in Dunghutti land, i've never taken from this species or partaken of its teachings. Confused i'm a bit reluctant to give the name, but you know which one it's a species that's reported here as having no alkaloids in the bark. the stand it comes from is within about 3 hrs from me. its just a personal preference.

 
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#956 Posted : 11/26/2012 11:01:25 PM
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^..oh ok, sorry i'm usually psychic, just have the odd off day! Confused Pleased
you mean the quiet and thin one..ok, interesting..i have only used 1 branch once of that species 'L' to test it, and it was good 0.2-0.3%..i only know of one other person actually bioassying it, who used phyllode/twig combined..so, parameters not fully known..but it has been raining a lot for most of the year where that species grows..most species show quite reduced or little alkaloid under prolonged wet conditions..incidentally, i know of one test (by 'M' ) of an unusually narrow phyllode strain of A. maidenii on the northern nsw coast..to his surprise, he got very little in the bark, and 0.7% alkaloid in phyllodes..perhaps alkaloids move around in a plant at different times..but, yeah, trees don't always follow strict rules..the other 3 high alkaloid strains known of A. maidenii have broader phyllodes, and high bark content..

..small twigs (which=branch bark) is the most symbiotic solution to human education vs plant growth needs..

..which brings me to a re-visit of my first post in this thread (& indeed the nexus) ..the main points i made in the OP were, that A. obtusifolia is variable in form and alkaloids (this has now been demonstrated, with help from the nexus); that A. acuminata is, of what's known so far, the most common, reliable and highest DMT yielding australian species (endlessness' phyllode extract test was the icing on the cake! and if we include sub. sp.burkitti, it is one of the most common and widespread acacias in the continent..Seed very easy to get from ordinary general plant sources); and that there's a lot more out there if more of us start testing (again..thank you those who've shared with this thread and the Nexus!Smile)
so, it feels great to get such a lengthy 'response' to my initial 'query'..Very happy !

oh, i also said something about US Acacias in the OP..a lot of unknown mystery there..come on America! show us what you got..!!Big grin
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below, Acacia_goldmanii, found northern mexico, recorded extending to california..
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#957 Posted : 11/26/2012 11:19:59 PM
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..they love their acacia 台湾相思 in China!Very happy grown a lot to improve soil..
from a chinese blog: (on Acacia confusa)
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产地:中国台湾南部地区
类别:常绿乔木
相思树目前在全世界一共有1200多种。除了欧洲和南极以外,各大州都有分布,其中在澳大利亚最多,大约有800多种,其次为亚洲,大约有150种,在我们国家只有台湾相思一种。现在中国种植的相思树都是从国外引进的,属于三级保护植物,大多生长在长江以南,分布也比较广。
相思树的枝叶细致紧密。如同一团团绿色的云朵。金黄色的花朵就像夕阳余晖下的云彩。其实相思树不仅有绚丽的外表。它的木材质地非常坚硬。常常被用来做各种家具、胶合板以及铁道枕木,还可以造纸。另外,相思树的树皮可提取栲胶。树叶可做饲料。树根可作染料,是不可多得的集经济效益和生态效益于一身的优良树种。
台湾相思 - 历史传说
相传为战国宋康王的舍人韩凭和他的妻子何氏所化生。据晋干宝《搜神记》卷十一载宋康王舍人韩凭妻何氏貌美康王夺之并囚凭。凭自杀何投台而死遗书愿以尸骨赐凭合葬。王怒弗听使里人埋之两坟相望。不久二冢之端各生大梓木屈体相就根交于下枝错于上。又有鸳鸯雌雄各一常栖树上交颈悲鸣。宋人哀之遂号其木曰“相思树”。后因以象征忠贞不渝的爱情。
台湾相思 - 分布范围
原产中国台湾,遍布全岛平原、丘陵低山地区,菲律宾也有分布。广东、海南、广西、福建、云南和江西等省(自治区)的热带和亚热带地区均有栽培。其水平分布,在北纬25°-26°以南生长正常;垂直分布,则因纬度而异,在海南热带地区可栽至海拔800米以上,而纬度较高的地区一般只在海拔200-300米以下的低地栽植。

..which reads:
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Place of Origin: China Taiwan southern
Category: evergreen tree
Taiwan acacia present in the world, a total of 1,200 species. Except Europe and Antarctica, the major states are distributed, which is the largest in Australia about 800 species, followed by Asia, about 150, only in our country Acacia a. China planted acacia are imported from abroad, belonging to three protected plants, mostly grown in the south of the Yangtze River, the broad distribution.
The acacia foliage detailed closely. As a round green clouds. Golden yellow flowers like clouds in the sunset glow. In fact, Taiwan acacia is not only a brilliant appearance. It's very hard wood texture. Often used to do all kinds of furniture, plywood and railway sleepers, can also be paper. In addition, Taiwan acacia bark extract tannin extract. Leaves do feed. The roots for dye, is a rare fine species of economic and ecological benefits in one.
Acacia - historical legend
According to legend, as the Warring States Period Song Kangwang Scheeren Han Ping and his wife Ho metaplasia. According to Jenkin Bao "Immortals" Juan Shiyi contained the Song Kangwang Scheeren Korea with wife of Ho and beautiful Kangwang wins and prisoners with. Died with suicide He cast the testament is willing to the bones give with buried. The wrath of the king listen and Azeri buried the two graves sea. The the end Johnson Catalpa pike phase near two mass graves on the root cross in the lower limbs wrong on. Yuanyang there are male and female each one often roost tree cross neck lament. Song sorrow then No. Wood said, "Taiwan acacia. After a symbol of faithful love.
Acacia - distribution
Origin China Taiwan and throughout the island plains, hilly low mountain region, the Philippines has distributed. Tropical and subtropical regions of Guangdong, Hainan, Guangxi, Fujian, Yunnan and Jiangxi provinces (autonomous regions) are cultivated. Horizontal distribution and growth of normal in the south of latitude 25 ° -26 °; vertical distribution due to latitude, can be planted in the tropical regions of Hainan to 800 meters above sea level, while the higher latitudes generally at an altitude of 200-300 meters below the lowland planting.


will be looking at more S.E. Asian species of interest again soon..
pictured - Acacia confusa in garden cultivation China, and then in Manila, Phillipine Islands..
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#958 Posted : 11/27/2012 3:29:44 AM
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..i have attached an excellent botanically orientated paper looking at S.E. Asian - family 'mimosaceae' (synon. Fabaceae; synon. 'leguminoseae'Pleased
"Medicinal Plants of Myanmar [Mimosaceae]" compiled by U Kyaw Tun, U Pe Than. 2006.
from it:

Acacia catechu
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Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: {rha:}
Hindi: 
• रवैर and {hkeikr} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Devanagari and Burmese-Myanmar; 
Sanskrit: 
• {hka.dir} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Myanmar
UKT: Note that the name in Hindi-Devanagari given in leader begins with the Devanagari-akshara र  whose equivalent in Myanmar is {ra.}.

• A moderate-sized tree with dark brown bark peeling off in long strips; stipular spines short, recurved, brown, glossy.
Part used and uses:
• Root, bark, leaf, flower, fruit -- Leprosy. Bark -- Leucoderma; Fistula in ano; Antidiarrhoea; Cough. Leaf -- Polyuria. Flower -- Metrorrhagia. Resin -- Tooth applicant for strong teeth; Haemostasis; Diarrhoea; Bowel antiseptic; Chronic sores; Gonorrhoea; Dry cough; Apthus ulcer; Ottorrhoea; Inflammations in oral cavity; Haemorrhoids.
• Heart wood. Astringent -- UHM
Constituents:
• 1. 25% Phlobatannin called Catechu-tannic acid. (1) -- UHM

[and both M. Crowley (yes A's grandnephew) and Pharmaceutical Excipients claim alkaloid n,n,-dimethyltryptamine]
common name in India/Tibet Khadira..as mentioned previously associated with Tara..see p.5
pictured below:
 
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..next up, Acacia concinna
..the Shampoo Acacia!
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Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
  {king-pwun:hkyiñ} - {king-pwun:} -  -
Hindi :
• {yhi.ka-ka-I} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Myanmar
Sanskrit :
UKT: Nagathein could have spelled the Hindi name {rhi-ka-ka-I} (which Burmese-Myanmar literates would read "shi-ka-ka-i"Pleased, in which case, we could safely say that the plant is the same as mentioned by http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fruit.html : " "shikakai" (or Shikai) which literally translates as 'fruit for the hair' " .
English common name used in Myanmar :

• Acacia concinna is a small shrub-like tree which grows in the warm, dry plains of central India. For centuries the people who have had access to this tree have used its pod-like fruit to clean their hair. They collect, dry and grind this pod into a powder which is considered a superior cleanser for "lustrous long hair" and has been reported as "promoting hair growth and preventing dandruff". Because of these benefits, this powder was named "shikakai" which literally translates as "fruit for the hair" . http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fr
Part used and uses :
• Leaf -- Ascites; Hepatitis; Unproductive cough; Leprosy; Haemorrhoids; Tumours; Indigestion; Biliousness; Expectorant; Good for heart. Fruit -- Abortifacient; Cathartic; Antidote for snake venom; As hair shampoo for antiseptic  and antidandruff; Pain due to cystitis. Seed -- Emetic; Diuretic; Cathartic. -- KS-TMN
• Bark, leaves, pods -- www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm
Ethnobotany (Worldwide use):
Today this fruit is grown commercially in large quantities in India and the Far East. As a result, shikakai powder is readily available and continues to be commonly used as a preferred shampoo. The dried, powdered fruit is sold in attractive packages that show women with long, beautiful, shiny hair. Many popular brands are sold throughout India.
   Typically, shikakai is mixed with water to make a paste which is worked through the hair. It lathers moderately and cleans hair beautifully. It has a natural low pH, is extremely mild, and doesn't strip hair of natural oils. Usually no rinse or conditioner is used since shikakai also acts as a detangler. This ancient product is probably the world's original pH balanced shampoo.
   ShiKai imports this shikakai powder from India and uses it as the primary cleansing and sudsing agent in ShiKai Shampoos.  Instead of using it in its raw powdered state however, Shikai makes an extract which preserves the beneficial properties and converts shikakai powder into a water-soluble form. This "shiKai" extract, as they've named it, is used in place of soaps and harsh detergents. The resulting shampoos are truly different -- they are gentle, mild, naturally low pH, and are genuine alternatives to all other shampoos found today. http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fruit.html
• An infusion of the leaves is used in malarial fever. A decoction of the pods relieves biliousness and acts as a purgative. It is used to remove dandruff. An ointment, prepared from the ground pods, is good for skin diseases. The pods, known as Shikai or Shikakai, are extensively used as an detergent, and the dry ones are powdered and perfumed, and sold in the market as soapnut powder. The pods are reported to be used in north Bengal for poisoning fish. [Nathawat and Deshpande, loc. Cit.;Nadkarni, I, 16; Bhatnagar et al, J Res Indian Med, 1973, 8(2), 67]. Contraindication N.A. Formulation and dosages: N.A. www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm
Constituents :
• The bark contains saponin, which on hydrolysis yields lupeol, (-spinasterol and acacic acid lactone. The sugars identified are glucose, arabinose and rhamnose. It also contains hexacosanol and (- spinasterone. The saponin of bark shows spermicidal activity against human semen (Banerji and Nigam, J Indian chem Soc., 1980, 57, 1043; Banerji et al, Indian Drugs, 1979 - 80, 17,6). The tender leaves, which are acidic, are used in chutneys. The leaves contain oxalic, tartaric, citric, succinic and ascorbic acids. They also contain two alkaloids calyctomine (C12H17O3N, m p 138-40o) and nicotine, besides rutin, and an enzyme tartaric racimase. A new triterpenoid saponin (C36H48O5, m p 295o) having the basic skeleton of oleanolic acid. Other constituents present in the leaves are tannins, amino acids and proteins (Gupta & Nigam, Planta med, 1970-71,19,55). -- www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm

..obviously due to the presence of nicotine (rare in acacias) this species should not be orally ingested
..also, interestingly, known in China as the 'Golden Happiness Tree'..
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..other family Mimosaceae plants covered in that excellent paper [U Kyaw Tun 2006]..(though not much is known about them chemically)
Adenanthera pavonina
Albizia lebbek
Albizia saman (Syn: Samanea saman, Pithecellobium saman, Enterolobium saman, Mimosa saman, Inga saman, Inga salutaris)
Entada phaseoloides
Entada scandens
Entada spp.

and
Mimosa pudica "Sensitive Plant"
Part used and used as:• Alexipharmic. Cures biliousness, leprosy, dysentery, vaginal and uterine complaints, inflammations, burning sensations, fatigue, asthma, leucoderma, small pox, diseases of the blood, piles and fistula. -- UHM
UKT: "The Greek prefix alexi-  is rare in English. It is similar to the prefix anti- and means "against".
-- Alexipharmic, n. , antidote for poison."
Constituents: 
• 1. Alkaloid mimosine (28 ). 2. 10% tannin. (3) -- UHM
• Structure of Mimosine: www.bio.miami.edu/mimosa/mimosa.html


..the two other acacias looked at were

Acacia farnesiana (world-wide warm climate distribution, orig. native Central America)
Quote:
Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
•  {nan:loan°:-kraing}
   -- TravPo-M-Dict 171
 {nan:loan°:-kraing} - n. vachellia, kind of fragrant flower, Acacia farmesiana. 
English common name used in Myanmar:

• Cassie flowers; Sponge tree; Stinking acacia.
Parts used and uses:• Bark -- Metrorrhagia; Pruritis; Bronchitis; Diarrhoea; Dysentery; For the treatment of tooth-ache, toothdecay and pyorrhoea; As an antidote for poisons; Heals carbuncles. Gum -- Aphrodisiac; Gives energy. -- KS-TMN

Constituents:
[according to tentative tests by associates of Trout, 5meoDMT, DMT and other tryptamines..with near global distribution is likely to be variable and have different forms]

..and Acacia leucophloea (found Myanmar)

Quote:
Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
  {hta.nhaung:}  
-- TravPo-M-Dict 141
 {hta.nhaung:} -- n. kind of thorny tree with whitish bark growing in dry regions, Acacia leucaphloea.
-- 
English common name used in Myanmar:
•  White barked Acacia, White Babool 
•  "White Babul"
• UHM : NL.
• Grows wild, common in dry zone plains --
Parts used and uses:
• Bark: Antiseptic; Antipyretic; Oedema; Cough; Emesis; To allay thirst; Burning sensations; Metrorrhagia; Mental disorders; Leprosy. Wood of fresh roots: Rabies -- KS-TMN
Constituents: unknown


below mimosine from M. pudica;
2 images of A. farnensiana in Myanmar;
and 3 of the interesting Acacia leucaphloea in Myanmar..
 
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