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godisenergy
#1 Posted : 10/5/2012 4:19:43 AM

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So SWIM did A/B with 1700 g of mhrb powder, ending up with about 3L of filtrate after boiling it down; defatted and basified the acidic filtrate to a black color and a very pungent odor; the exact pH is unknown. He just heard round' here that SWIM shouldn't be worried about TOO much base. After that, naptha pulls were done on the basified mhrb filtrate;about 3 L were taken of naphtha. The naphtha was divided between 2 2L sep funnels and a good pinch of sodium carbonate went into 500 mL of water, which was also split up into the two funnels. After shaking vigorously, the layers split off and in ten minutes, the layers were seperated, but the naphtha was cloudy. Two more washes of about 200 mL of ditilled water were done. they were still cloudy. SWIM's hand was very blurry,but identifiable through the sep funnel in sunlight. The carbonate layers was clear.

The napththa was clear right after pulling from the basified solution, but when left outside in a jar, it became cloudy the next day. The jar was cold to the touch. The basified solution was pulled in warm weather. After the carbonate wash, the naphthta was much more cloudier.

Anyone know why my naphtha is even cloudier after a wash of sodium carbonate?

Is it possible that the carbonate wash did something to the naphthta that caused the DMT to precipitate out even more? Thanks!
 

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#2 Posted : 10/5/2012 7:40:27 AM

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I'm not entirely sure about the science behind it but I'd say you are ok to go ahead and freeze. This happened to me with my extract but I did a STB Tek, left my jars outside after the wash and when I came back they were cloudy. I got 1.5% yield from my jars so I think it is just your DMT precipitating out of the naptha. I'd freeze them and see what happens if you get heavy crystal probably just DMT precipitate if not no harm done.

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godisenergy
#3 Posted : 10/6/2012 5:16:42 AM

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Wonderful! I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Thx!
 
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#4 Posted : 10/6/2012 5:26:51 AM
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godisenergy wrote:
So SWIM did A/B with 1700 g of mhrb powder, ending up with about 3L of filtrate after boiling it down; defatted and basified the acidic filtrate to a black color and a very pungent odor; the exact pH is unknown. He just heard round' here that SWIM shouldn't be worried about TOO much base. After that, naptha pulls were done on the basified mhrb filtrate;about 3 L were taken of naphtha. The naphtha was divided between 2 2L sep funnels and a good pinch of sodium carbonate went into 500 mL of water, which was also split up into the two funnels. After shaking vigorously, the layers split off and in ten minutes, the layers were seperated, but the naphtha was cloudy. Two more washes of about 200 mL of ditilled water were done. they were still cloudy. SWIM's hand was very blurry,but identifiable through the sep funnel in sunlight. The carbonate layers was clear.

The napththa was clear right after pulling from the basified solution, but when left outside in a jar, it became cloudy the next day. The jar was cold to the touch. The basified solution was pulled in warm weather. After the carbonate wash, the naphthta was much more cloudier.

Anyone know why my naphtha is even cloudier after a wash of sodium carbonate?

Is it possible that the carbonate wash did something to the naphthta that caused the DMT to precipitate out even more? Thanks!



I think the wash was supposed to be performed on the extracted DMT not while the DMT is still in the naptha.
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Sykosis
#5 Posted : 10/6/2012 6:16:43 AM

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I think the wash was supposed to be performed on the extracted DMT not while the DMT isstill in the naptha.

You wash your Naptha not your crystals, washing crystals only cleans the outside of them leaving contamination inside. You should always wash your freebase while still suspended in the naptha.

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