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kemekal
#1 Posted : 10/4/2012 11:35:35 PM
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straight to business,
after reading a bunch of different techniques, I went ahead and purchased all the items I had thought that I needed.. this includes Mimosa hostillis, lye, naphtha, funnels, glass baking pan, gloves, goggles, jars, nasal aspirators, digital scale.. and I skip the PH strips because I was told on this on that they were necessary and the Mimosa Acts as its own pH indicators when it turns black.. and as long as I follow the tek, ill be good...

So!

I went ahead and did the 50 grams bark, 50 grams lye,, 750 milliliters water, and shook, while lye was still warn to the hand mind you, and after reading all kinds of other teks, I'm finding SOME of em say "distilled"..

So now i got a clear to later, itsty bitsy thin layer of lightish tan color with what seems to be dmt crystals floating ontop of that layer..

My question is did i lose it, and what should i do for the rest of this extraction??
I'm pretty desperate by now Neutral
 

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#2 Posted : 10/4/2012 11:49:27 PM

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As long as you dont throw anything away you should be ok.
Are you using a STB tek?
 
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#3 Posted : 10/5/2012 12:34:32 AM
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Yes i am. I was originally using "nomans".. But it seems to had been vague cuz it didn't mention letting cool, or distilled, and what not.. Do what should i do from here in out?
 
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#4 Posted : 10/5/2012 12:36:15 AM
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Wait your saying you just used tap water right?


It does not matter if the water you used was distilled or not
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#5 Posted : 10/5/2012 12:53:13 AM

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Sorry, but the initial post isn't detailed enough to help ya out.

Where are you in the extraction?
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#6 Posted : 10/5/2012 12:56:47 AM

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I just did Noman's tek, worked great.
So you got your Lye,Mimosa,Water mixture in a jar and you say you got a layer of separation on the top, shouldn't be too big an issue. You should be alright to put in your naptha and do some pulls, just pour in 50ml of naptha roll the jar gently end over end and suck out the naptha.
Your DMT will be contained in the naptha, then either freeze or evap whatever you want.
Their is really no way you can lose your DMT theirs always a way to get it back.

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#7 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:06:46 AM
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Awesome. that's what i needed to hear. And that's exactly where i am I'm the extraction, already rolled it for a couple minutes multiple times, agitating and letting sit to separate layers..

What I'm seeing now is Below

My last question to continue would be, RIGHT below the clear layer of naphtha is a tan thin line (layer) with what seems to be powdered crystals sitting on top of this layer.. Do i have to suck that up along with the powdered crystals in my pulls?

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#8 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:10:35 AM
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This picture isn't that great, in actuality it doesn't look all dark and gooey Brien on top. And the crystals have a nice white to em
 
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#9 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:44:54 AM

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No just suck up the clear naptha nothing else. I believe that tan layer your seeing is either just a slight foamy emulsion or some mimosa particles floating on top. Your DMT will be suspended in the naptha.
Just as long as you don't throw anything away their is always a chance.

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#10 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:52:52 AM

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Crystals? What exactly do you mean? Your not going to see any DMT crystals until after you freeze precipitate.
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#11 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:56:33 AM
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I want to freeze mine, should i Seran wrap the glass baking pan with Naphtha and place it I'm the freezer? Thanks for all the help and reassurance btw!
 
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#12 Posted : 10/5/2012 2:58:02 AM

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Yes definitely make sure it is as air tight as possible.
No problem.

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#13 Posted : 10/5/2012 5:29:03 AM
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@Anrchy yea, that's what i was thinking, i just never seen or came across anything while researching that mentioned a white powdery substance.. , well I'm about to extract my first pull tonight, and ill keep every one posted on the results when i get them.
After i get the freezer step out of the way, is it highly recommended that i recrystalize ? Or is that just an option one can skip? Is it that significant in contributing toward my end yield?
 
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#14 Posted : 10/5/2012 7:29:12 AM

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Recrystallizing will only help to further purify your final product and remove some of the impurities that may be in it. It is not a necessary step but I would recommend it if you have the means. I won't increase your yield in fact it will probably decrease it a little but you'll have a purer form of DMT when your finished.

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anrchy wrote:
Crystals? What exactly do you mean? Your not going to see any DMT crystals until after you freeze precipitate.


Not necessarily. I have had crystals form on top of my base layer. It depends if you pulled with warm naphtha or with the base still warm. Basically, naphtha can hold more spice with warm temps and when it starts to cool, the spice can start precipitating before the first pull.

Best thing to do (if those really are DMT crystals floating on top) is to warm the whole jar up in a warm water bath... remember to be careful with flames and solvent... safety first!!! After the jar has been warmed, your dmt should have dissolved back into the solvent, re shake the jar, and pull as normal.

Good luck Big grin
 
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DoingKermit wrote:
anrchy wrote:
Crystals? What exactly do you mean? Your not going to see any DMT crystals until after you freeze precipitate.


Not necessarily. I have had crystals form on top of my base layer. It depends if you pulled with warm naphtha or with the base still warm. Basically, naphtha can hold more spice with warm temps and when it starts to cool, the spice can start precipitating before the first pull.

Best thing to do (if those really are DMT crystals floating on top) is to warm the whole jar up in a warm water bath... remember to be careful with flames and solvent... safety first!!! After the jar has been warmed, your dmt should have dissolved back into the solvent, re shake the jar, and pull as normal.

Good luck Big grin


Makes total sense to me I'd do that, I'm still new myself so I to have much to learn.
But like I said theirs always a way to Get your DMT back, never lose hope.

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#17 Posted : 10/5/2012 10:16:44 PM
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Sweet! I already pulled my first extraction and have crystals firmed in a glass baking pan.. The white powdery substance is still floating between my new Naphtha and base..so ill definitely be warming up before my next pull, because it looks like a good amount if be missing out on

I've now had my first pool freezing for 15 hours in this super duper cold 3x5x4 freezer,, I'm about to pull it on out, pour it through a couple coffee filters, and pour the Naphtha in a separate mason jar for later use,

So what would be an effective way to dry my pull? Just spread out the filters flat in some tupperware with a towel over it to keep too much air flow from getting to it and 'oxidating' it??

What method works best for you's ?
 
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#18 Posted : 10/6/2012 3:19:15 AM

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depends, some like to pour out the naptha then blow on them with a fan. I personally pour off my naptha then place the jars back in the freezer upside down on some filter paper to catch any crystals that may fall out until they dry. But whatever works for you is fine. The important things is to dry your crystals as fast as possible or they'll re-dissolve back in the naptha.

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