Hi,

After reading this tek I got a bit confused for several reasons.

First of all, I read that HBWR can be substituted with Morning Glory seeds, which are more easily to obtain for me. Does the ratio 1 HBWR seed = Morning Glory seed apply, or do you need more Morning Glory seeds?

I also would like to know which dose roughly accords to what kind of tripintensity. The tek explains how much powder or solid LSA a 9-seeds-worth-of trip is, but is this a heavy trip or a rather mild one?

The confusion started after reading something on Erowid, which states:

Oral Ipomoea violacea Seed Dosages
Light 50 - 100 seeds 1.5 - 3 g
Common 100 - 250 seeds 3 - 6 g
Strong 250 - 400 seeds 6 - 10 g
Heavy 400 + seeds 10 + g

So could anyone please help me to roughly estimate on how many Morning Glory seeds I need to do this extraction for what kind of tripintensity?

Thanks in advance!

Onix

HBWR seeds are wayyy more potent than morning glory. You only need 3-10 Hawaiian strain HBWR seeds to get effects.

Morning glories you need like 300 seeds for a decent trip.

Thanks for your answer, Kash! Now I have a rough estimate of the ratio^^

What would you suggest me to get: 10 HBWR seeds or 400 Morning Glory seeds?
And how many of the two kinds of seeds would I need to get an average to strong trip?

Onix

Haven't done Morning Glory. HBWR looks easier to me anyways. You might want to do a light dose with a primitive alcohol soak and chew just to test your batch. Have ginger, peppermint or benadryl on hand, all three is best!
I recently read another forum where someone got a batch of bad seeds sold as Hawaiian, so the poor soul assumed Hawaiian strain was bad and Indian must be superior!
Ten real potent HBWR seemed too much to me for a first, or even second experience. My friend personally expected something closer to LSD. No such luck.

what is it like if not close to lsd i did the hbwr extraction and ate some of the tan powder i got from it and dident really feel anything i don't have a scale that goes to the milligrams so i just took a little bit on the end of a small pocket knife and licked it up.. ended up taking 5 of those but dident trip i thought i started getting closed eye visuals but it was weak so i coulda just been imagining it or something so idk what my problem is any info, feed back and help would be greatly appreciated

I have to check, are you asking about Convolvulus tricolor 'Panorama' a mixed variety of morning glory?

This is not a species that is typically employed.

This is the species you might want:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipomoea_tricolor

Panorama is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolvulus_tricolor




This can be a little confusing, if I am making a mistake please forgive me

Well if you dont want alot of work, then morning glory simple extraction is the way to go. HBWR without proper defat cleaning will generally produce more nausea.

No, I was referring to a Nexus member whose name is PanoraMIX. He has a tek for the extraction of LSA. But thanks for the usefull info anyways

Thanks! I think for the first time a more simple extraction would be better. I'll see from there where I'll go next