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Macavity224
#1 Posted : 8/4/2012 5:50:22 AM

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So I just started my very first STB tek tonight after a lot of careful planning, and I decided to keep a brief day-to-day update on the process if anyone is interested. Feedback is much appreciated as I still have no idea what I'm doing! Shocked

Tonight I mixed:

- 750ml distilled water
- 50mg NaOH
- 50mg MHRB (Powdered)

I've been swirling it around a bit for the past hour or so, but I'm going to at least let it sit overnight before moving onto the naptha.

I'll update tomorrow.

Thanks for reading Smile
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#2 Posted : 8/4/2012 11:16:52 PM

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The water/lye/mhrb mixture has been sitting since around 11 o'clock last night. At about 1am, there were still come clumps of mimosa in the mixture that I could see, but they were gone by the morning. I'm now going to add 75ml of naptha to the top of the solution and wait a couple hours to do the pull.
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#3 Posted : 8/4/2012 11:36:39 PM

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Mix the naptha and mhrb solution thoroughly so you pick up as much dmt as possible in your pulls. Look forward to hearing your results Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 8/5/2012 12:05:42 AM

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I've been agitating the jar with the visible layer of naptha on top, however I may have run into a problem. There still appears to be a small chunk of mhrb located towards the top of the jar, like the ones I described last night. Is this a problem or normal?

Also, I've read in some teks that the layer of naptha on the top of the jar HAS to be yellow/gold before you do the pull (this supposedly means that the dmt has migrated into the naptha). Is this absolutely necessary, or can you still get results from doing pulls with a clear layer of naptha?

Thanks Smile
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#5 Posted : 8/5/2012 3:27:01 AM
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Macavity224 wrote:
I've been agitating the jar with the visible layer of naptha on top, however I may have run into a problem. There still appears to be a small chunk of mhrb located towards the top of the jar, like the ones I described last night. Is this a problem or normal?

Also, I've read in some teks that the layer of naptha on the top of the jar HAS to be yellow/gold before you do the pull (this supposedly means that the dmt has migrated into the naptha). Is this absolutely necessary, or can you still get results from doing pulls with a clear layer of naptha?

Thanks Smile


I get results with a clear layer of naphtha every time. I don't think you really want it to be yellow/gold. It may appear to have a yellowish tint to it in your mixing jar, but once you take the naphtha out it looks clear as day.
 
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#6 Posted : 8/5/2012 3:32:54 AM

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andronaut wrote:
Macavity224 wrote:
I've been agitating the jar with the visible layer of naptha on top, however I may have run into a problem. There still appears to be a small chunk of mhrb located towards the top of the jar, like the ones I described last night. Is this a problem or normal?

Also, I've read in some teks that the layer of naptha on the top of the jar HAS to be yellow/gold before you do the pull (this supposedly means that the dmt has migrated into the naptha). Is this absolutely necessary, or can you still get results from doing pulls with a clear layer of naptha?

Thanks Smile


I get results with a clear layer of naphtha every time. I don't think you really want it to be yellow/gold. It may appear to have a yellowish tint to it in your mixing jar, but once you take the naphtha out it looks clear as day.


Awesome dude, I was gonna do the pull in like an hour or two and I was hoping someone would respond to the thread in time. How long do you personally wait to take the pulls after you put the naptha in?
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#7 Posted : 8/5/2012 3:58:43 AM

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Macavity224 wrote:


Tonight I mixed:

- 750ml distilled water
- 50mg NaOH
- 50mg MHRB (Powdered)



There ya go! Start off small.
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#8 Posted : 8/5/2012 10:36:44 AM

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So my pull last night was a disaster. I couldn't manage to get just the naptha out of the jar with a turkey baster...I kept sucking up some of the lye/naoh/water mix as well. I let a little bit of the brown crap sit with the naptha and freeze overnight. After I dumped everything out the next morning, I couldn't see anything at the bottom of the bowl, so I assume I messed something up.

Did I not use enough naptha? I feel like the layer of naptha at the top wasn't thick enough for me to suck up with the baster...I used 75ml. Is there some sort of trick to just getting the top layer of naptha sucked up without any of the other goop, or am I just doing something completely wrong?

Also, how long will the lye/water/naoh/naptha mixture last? I'm not sure when the next time I'll be able to try another pull will be, but I don't want to waste the resources I've already used.

Thanks. Smile
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#9 Posted : 8/5/2012 3:04:27 PM

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Macavity224 wrote:
Is there some sort of trick to just getting the top layer of naptha sucked up without any of the other goop


Yup. what you should try next time is find a narrow neck glass beaker/vase or some container or some kind..

example:


(it dont need to be exactly like that.. i use a very narrow neck vase.. does the same job)

then you could suck up so much of these two layers, squirt them down into this tube, and suddenly, your small thin layer of naph becomes much bigger in depth. makes it really easy to suck it off.. just use a eye dropper or something.

not sure if 75ml is the right amount, but im sure someone will comment about that if its wrong. take care - good luck!
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#10 Posted : 8/5/2012 8:39:07 PM
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First post but long time lurker Smile

Am planning on my first extraction soon too, nice to see these sort of diary's, im also planning on using a long neck measuring cylinder so the naphtha is much easier to pull, also i plan on using a combo of turkey baster + syringe for when i get to the smaller amounts.
 
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#11 Posted : 8/5/2012 8:52:29 PM

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Lewinii wrote:
Macavity224 wrote:
Is there some sort of trick to just getting the top layer of naptha sucked up without any of the other goop


Yup. what you should try next time is find a narrow neck glass beaker/vase or some container or some kind..

example:


(it dont need to be exactly like that.. i use a very narrow neck vase.. does the same job)

then you could suck up so much of these two layers, squirt them down into this tube, and suddenly, your small thin layer of naph becomes much bigger in depth. makes it really easy to suck it off.. just use a eye dropper or something.

not sure if 75ml is the right amount, but im sure someone will comment about that if its wrong. take care - good luck!


I'm not sure where a long-necked vase/beaker/whatever comes into play in the process...do you pour the whole solution from your mason jar into another container like this for the purpose of getting the naptha out, and then put it back in the jar later?
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#12 Posted : 8/5/2012 9:18:48 PM

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I assume you're using a glass turkey baster or a hdpe2 baster? One that is transparent? When sucking up your naptha do it at the side of the glass and that way you can see where the hole of the baster meets the naptha. Plus the naptha layer is thicker at the sides of the glass.

If you are still getting some mhrb lye solution in your baster all you have to do if your baster is transparent is hold it hanging straight down and if it starts escaping from the hole cover it with something and wait for the mhrb solution to sink to the bottom and let it drip out the baster leaving just naptha in the baster. You will be doing a re-x or wash anyway i'm assuming?

I'd say ^^^ that's the best way if using a baster and your getting more than naptha in there. Good luck!
 
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#13 Posted : 8/5/2012 9:19:41 PM

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75ml of naptha is ok but 50ml would be better for the amount you're doing.
 
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Macavity224 wrote:
do you pour the whole solution from your mason jar into another container like this for the purpose of getting the naptha out, and then put it back in the jar later?


yeah, that is what i do for nomans tek. i suck up enough of the 2 layers in my mixing jar, and put them into a skinnier neck container, so the naphtha is now much easier to suck up and put into a collection jar for freezing.
(dont pour the whole solution, just whatever is needed to fill your skinny neck container)

when i have as much naphtha as i can collect for a single pull, i dump the remains of my two layers back into my mixing jar, and then i will soon start a second pull.

all im doing is transferring some of MHRB/water/lye mix and the naphtha into a different container so that the naphtha is now a much deeper layer, really easy to pull at this point IMO. it may take longer but this is the way i like to do it
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#15 Posted : 8/5/2012 10:13:51 PM

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DeMenTed wrote:
I assume you're using a glass turkey baster or a hdpe2 baster? One that is transparent? When sucking up your naptha do it at the side of the glass and that way you can see where the hole of the baster meets the naptha. Plus the naptha layer is thicker at the sides of the glass.

If you are still getting some mhrb lye solution in your baster all you have to do if your baster is transparent is hold it hanging straight down and if it starts escaping from the hole cover it with something and wait for the mhrb solution to sink to the bottom and let it drip out the baster leaving just naptha in the baster. You will be doing a re-x or wash anyway i'm assuming?

I'd say ^^^ that's the best way if using a baster and your getting more than naptha in there. Good luck!


I had a plastic turkey baster, but didn't want to use it so I've been using a stainless steel one, which sucks because I can't see what's going inside...I just ordered a glass one yesterday though, so that problem will be remedied soon enough. Good call on sucking up the naptha on the side of the jar too, seems more logical than my method. Would it be bad to tilt the jar slightly to make it easier too?

As for the amount of naptha...I thought a thicker layer might make it easier to get out, so I added another 75ml to the jar, meaning I'm at 150ml now. Some teks I've read actually recommend an amount like that for this ratio, but I'm not sure...still just experimenting. One thing I've read here (if I remember correctly) is that more naptha = more time for the dmt to migrate into it...so should I wait a whole 24 hours before doing another pull to make sure everything's mixed together well?
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#16 Posted : 8/5/2012 11:29:05 PM

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Using a steel baster sounds hoffific! I would try and get a transparent one (not nylon) or use a milk jug as a separatery funnel by poking a hole in the bottom corner and let the mhrb flow out and covering the hole when it's just naptha left. !50ml of naptha is way too much for a 50 gramme extraction. Remember you want to have saturated naptha. You will need to evaporate all your naptha down before freeze preciping or just evaporate all the naptha for maximum yield.
 
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If you do the sep funnel thing remember and let the mhrb solution flow into another container so you can do more pulls. It's a complicated way to do things but using a metal baster would be horrendous! Good luck Smile
 
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#18 Posted : 8/6/2012 12:49:09 AM

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DeMenTed wrote:
Using a steel baster sounds hoffific! I would try and get a transparent one (not nylon) or use a milk jug as a separatery funnel by poking a hole in the bottom corner and let the mhrb flow out and covering the hole when it's just naptha left. !50ml of naptha is way too much for a 50 gramme extraction. Remember you want to have saturated naptha. You will need to evaporate all your naptha down before freeze preciping or just evaporate all the naptha for maximum yield.


Yes, the steel baster isn't much fun, but the glass one will be coming soon...hopefully by the next time I can do a pull. What do you mean when you say evaporate all the naptha down?

Also, does the solution go "bad" at any point? I might not have a chance to do a pull in the next couple of days.
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Zeul wrote:
First post but long time lurker Smile

Am planning on my first extraction soon too, nice to see these sort of diary's, im also planning on using a long neck measuring cylinder so the naphtha is much easier to pull, also i plan on using a combo of turkey baster + syringe for when i get to the smaller amounts.


Glad you like the idea, be sure to make a similar topic when you decide to do your first extraction, it's helped me loads so far. I'll be sure to check it out too, although I still have almost no experience doing it as well!
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Macavity224 wrote:
Zeul wrote:
First post but long time lurker Smile

Am planning on my first extraction soon too, nice to see these sort of diary's, im also planning on using a long neck measuring cylinder so the naphtha is much easier to pull, also i plan on using a combo of turkey baster + syringe for when i get to the smaller amounts.


Glad you like the idea, be sure to make a similar topic when you decide to do your first extraction, it's helped me loads so far. I'll be sure to check it out too, although I still have almost no experience doing it as well!


I'll be joining in as well here. I will probably be attempting my first extraction this month as well. I have 100g of MHRB at my disposal, I am thinking of using half for my first try, so it will look similar to what you are doing. Will post a report of my own, and hope everything goes according to plan. Best of luck with your own project, make sure to let us know if you were able to pull some alkaloids Smile
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