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Donut
#1 Posted : 7/31/2012 9:53:57 PM
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Ok, so this is what I'm getting after I freeze precipitate then pour the naptha through a coffee filter. These are left on the filter. I assume this is DMT? It seems like a very small amount. Also sometimes it stays wet on the filter and gets absorbed into the filter, how do I prevent this? Are there better ways to get rid of the naptha?

 

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#2 Posted : 7/31/2012 10:07:08 PM

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Hey

We have no idea what Tek you are using so can't speculate on your yield amount But..
When you freeze you should have all your spice falling to the bottom and sides of your container and adhering to the glass...

There is no real need to pour through a filter...Surprised

Just suck up the solvent out of the container and pour out the last bit and reuse for the next pull.
Then dry the crystals that are in the container with a fan or leave upside down for a while to drain the solvent off.

The crystals will want to dissolve back into solvent at room temp..so that is whats happening on the filter.
You can cut up the filter into little pieces (where it is wet) and put in hot naphtha to dissolve out any spice you have soak in it...then refreeze.

Hope this helps...
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#3 Posted : 7/31/2012 10:11:25 PM
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The tek said to pour it through a coffee filter because there was some floating in the naptha. So I get the majority of the DMT from scraping it off the glass? That makes more sense I have it out drying in front of a fan now, hopefully I can get some from it. When I tried to scrape it before it just turned into yellow goo. What do I do with that? Recrystalize?
 
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#4 Posted : 7/31/2012 10:18:04 PM

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Donut wrote:
When I tried to scrape it before it just turned into yellow goo. What do I do with that? Recrystalize?


If crystals (snow globes) are turning to goo..it is probably because they are still a bit wet with solvent and are redissolving...
Collect everything you get and Re-X the lot and separate any contaminants and then refreeze overnight...
The goo is still active if you want to try it on some leaf..
But Re-x is the way to go..Very happy
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#5 Posted : 7/31/2012 10:23:14 PM
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Alright so just to be clear, I put it in a glass and put some new naptha on it and warm it up until everything dissolves. Then I take all the naptha away from the contaminants into another glass and freeze? Am I looking for the DMT to just 'flake' off when I scrape it?
 
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#6 Posted : 7/31/2012 10:28:43 PM

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Donut wrote:
Alright so just to be clear, I put it in a glass and put some new naptha on it and warm it up until everything dissolves. Then I take all the naptha away from the contaminants into another glass and freeze? Am I looking for the DMT to just 'flake' off when I scrape it?


If you can, heat the Nap up in a jar (Not much just 20-30ml..in a water bath almost boiling) and add to a glass with your spice/goo in it. Stir around till dissolved. Cold Nap may not dissolve it.
Then separate the Nap from the gunk into another clean glass and refreeze overnight.

You want the crystals flakey...but Freebase DMT is also a clear liquid/oily goo so if it is a bit gooey just dry it fully and it should harden up..
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#7 Posted : 7/31/2012 11:11:05 PM

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You might want to try evaporating your naptha down a bit until its clouding at room temperature. IE it gets milky, especially when you blow air on it, that way you know for sure its saturated and will properly precipitate it when you freeze it. Sometimes if you use too much naptha, theres enough solvent to keep a significant amount of dmt soluble even when frozen, so you get very little in terms of precipitation/crystals.

I really don't like filtering with a coffer filter, or anything for that matter when freeze precipitating. I just pour off the naptha/heptane into another glass jar, even if theres chunks, and let it evaporate down until its clouding again at room temp. Then freeze it again and repeat until theres no naptha/heptane left. Your xtyals will be less pure the more you evap the naptha (since its concentrating the impurities), but filtering naptha is a royal pita imho, and you lose some product no matter how careful you are.

And as for it turning to goo when you scrape up the crystals, let the jar with the crystals stuck to the sides dry overnight, then scrape. That always prevents gooey crystals ime, and allows any residual naptha to evaporate. Just keep it in a cool dark and dry place, possibly with a small fan blowing lightly across the top of the jar.

You won't have to filter at all doing it this way, you won't get gooey crystals, and if you evap/freeze/evap/freeze/ect you can get all the dmt to precipitate as crystals and not goo. You just need an extra jar since one will have crystals drying in it while the other is in the freezer. After the first jar drys, and you have scraped, pour the naptha from the second jar into that one and let the crystals in your second jar dry while the one you just poured the naptha into evaps/freezes.
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#8 Posted : 7/31/2012 11:22:52 PM
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Ok I'll try that, thanks a lot guys!
 
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#9 Posted : 8/13/2012 11:56:26 PM

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Maybe check out page 10 in "The DMT Handbook".

It suggests pouring off the bulk of the Naptha, putting the globe back in the freezer, upside down. This allows more Naptha to drain off and keeps condensation (H20) levels down.


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