..an afterword on the recent
Acacia analysis by endlessness,
firstly, after checking with the person who extracted the narrow phyllode
A. acuminata, they soaked the material in ethanol/dilute acetic acid 50:50 for several hours prior to boiling..followed by NaOH, extracted into xylene, one pull..
this method evidently was efficient and clean (almost an understatement)..i think all that essentially needs to be known regarding extraction has been covered in this thread by now..the real interest for me lies in what's in these interesting lifeforms..
..second, the juvenile
A. mucronata extractions are one of the most interesting 'tryptamine' profiles of a plant which doesn't contain any DMT (there may be traces) that i've seen..as i mentioned in the analysis thread, phyllodes of juvenile/young A. phlebophylla tested once as containing mainly tryptamine & some ß-carbs ['J.J.' 2009]..adult plants (3-5 years+) of both mucronata (in 1 test) and phlebophylla (1-2 tests) contained DMT..so the variance could be an age thing, or of course seasonal/individual..
the extracts (essentially apparently NMT, tryptamine, 2MTHBC, harmine and other interesting traces) have been bioassyed by vapor, and had not unpleasant entheogenic effects lasting approx. 45-60 mins, though not very visual..the other tryptamines (& of course betacarbolines) are not without there own modes of potentially therapeutic activity..
..NMT i've covered before, but tryptamine is even less understood..from very limited experience with multialkaloid extracts which had a lot of tryptamine, and from the very limited data on it, i suspect (above a dosage) elicits a fast acting state of 'tryptamine heightened sensory awareness', a bit like NMT, but of an even less visual nature, and likely to induce possible body tremors..a good source has mentioned that apparently Stephen Szára (who first scientifically described the effects of DMT, by injection in 1956 in Hungary) injected tryptamine in 'large doses' in the late 50s and found it to be a 'very fast acting psychedelic'..still can't access the reference..
now if the African
A. nilotica (or at least the Kenyan variety) does contain 'harmane derivatives' (ßcarbs) and tryptamine [see refs], this could explain the apparent 'stimulation' and tendency to move 'aggressively' reported by anthropologists of the Masai ceremonial drink made from A. nilotica bark, and brought up by beautifulsorrow on p21#411..i've discussed oral activity elsewhere
the so far repeated finding in
A. obtusifolia of small amounts of 3-methyl-quinoline (of unknown toxicity) suggests that this species is slightly more 'odd' than many..this needs further work.. the synchronicity of the 2nd sample also, like mucronata, containing trace harmine is odd, but i can't see how any contamination could have occurred..this is from a not so common form which a botanist i once queried agreed was almost taxonomically the same as forms of mucronata..i have seen several A. obtusifolia extracts which contained apparently no DMT, but had milder activity..
so i think we are seeing a kind of complex between a few related species..
we should remember these species have only been tested a few times or once (meaning from one location/individual or time)..the whole question of Acacia variability is still very open..
..certainly, growers and horticulturalists take note, the narrow phyllode forms of
A. acuminata seem (from multiple anecdotal/underground sources) to be very consistent..and the particular specimen tested has about the 'cleanest' dmt profile of a plant i've seen, hence it is a potential reference if the reliability bares out..it should tolerate down to about Minus 8 degrees C, maybe down to minus 10 as some australian species growing in Europe can handle..
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ps. regarding Growpen's non-dmt alkaloid from the acacia which
isn't acuminata (on
p24 #479)..by checking for lists of colour reactions to reagents, we can have aguess at the class of alkaloid..for instance, with Ehrlich's i believe PEAs turn yellow-green..tryptamines blue-purple..also, Growpen..the acuminata narrow leaf pictured
p28 here does display a slight curving or bent tendency of some phyllodes, though not as actutely curved as the 'typical variant' of
A. acuminata, which is really what has been referred to earlier as a 'Species Complex'..
..enlightening research and study, all 'acacia-loving-nexians', to borrow Spice Sailor's phrase..
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below, Masai men's ceremony, with Acacia nilotica (and orally active brew)..
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