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Too much acetate to evap, what to do? Options
 
galulyah
#1 Posted : 5/9/2012 4:55:49 AM
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Endlessness, help!

Jk, but thanks again for all the great posts, can't tell you how many times
you've saved meSmile

Assuming there is too much acetate to evap in a timely matter, any advice on what to
do?

Sad to say, on a budget and can't afford to get many more supplies.

Have access to:

Limonene
naoh
lime
acetone
freezer

Could I freeze precip somehow?
Can I do another a/b on the acetate and just work the volume down?
Heat on the stove on low to evap ok?

Thanks again,
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Vitalstatistix
#2 Posted : 5/9/2012 10:56:25 AM

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My suggestions would be to buy some hexane or naptha, disolve your acetate in some water, base with NaOH, pull the freebase with naptha / hexane and freeze precipitate the freebase.
or
Evaporate the acetate in an baking dish in the oven on the lowest setting. Should only take a few hours. DMT acetate vaporises at a much higher temerature than freebase so 100 degrees centigrade or just below should evaporate the acetate solution fiarly quickly.
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galulyah
#3 Posted : 5/9/2012 2:25:03 PM
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Awesome,

Thanks Vs.

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endlessness
#4 Posted : 5/9/2012 2:39:09 PM

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You could even boil it on low fire to reduce, no problem. Just have a large pot, with good air circulation /kitchen extractor to evap it faster. Evapping in the oven is also ok. You could later mix your nearly dried acetates with lime, and pull with acetone, to get a freebase (maybe oil, maybe solid, depend how pure the acetates/vinegar is).

What else? Well yeah you could base with lye and pull with small amounts of warm limonene and then salt again with lesser amounts (but Im not sure if that would be more trouble or save the trouble)

And btw, wheres your intro essay so we can properly welcome you to the community? Smile
 
galulyah
#5 Posted : 5/9/2012 6:06:29 PM
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Great ideas,

So nice to have the support. Workin on the essay todaySmile
 
EzekielCain
#6 Posted : 5/9/2012 6:54:38 PM
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I'm in the same boat except with STB.

I started my big extraction day before yesterday, had a dark yellow first pull, put it into an industrial fridge with a constantly running fan at 34 degrees until the volume went down by about half and it was milky yellow and popped it into the walkin freezer at -10 degrees.

Upon inspection today there's nowhere near as many xtals as when I did my 100g extraction. There looks like some scrapeable material but the naphtha is still almost all there and not much product has been dropped from it...

Not sure where this went wrong...

I'm thinking now that I didn't use enough lye...I was worried about cracking the glass jar because it got SOOOOO hot but I didn't use the rest of the lb of lye. I'm going to pull the rest of my solvent and hammer my mix with more lye and then re-add to see if this corrects the problem. The color indicates that its infact been saturated but for some reason it isn't dropping. I'll see what happens with my plan and let you know...
 
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#7 Posted : 5/9/2012 7:51:20 PM

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Check the FAQ, EzekielCain Smile

Be well!
 
EzekielCain
#8 Posted : 5/9/2012 8:25:37 PM
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That confirms my suspicion.

I'm gonna let my current pull sit awhile longer and salvage what I can scrape. I'll re-use that in with what's currently in my jar after bumping up the pH with the rest of my lye and constantly keep it rotating.

Thanks endless Thumbs up

Update: I poured off my solvent and reserved it to the side, upon scraping my pyrex dish, I've got probably a gram of yellowish white spice. I don't know why it settled to the bottom instead of forming crystals but there IS a yield, I just didn't see it.

I'll let you know what else happens as it transpires. Still don't think it will hurt to hammer it with more lye and do smaller pulls. Maybe I'm just too greedy and need to do more pulls with less volume. The recipe is right but the batter seems different.

Sure is fun exploring different options though.
 
EzekielCain
#9 Posted : 5/10/2012 5:41:15 AM
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Well....that's freakin' odd.

I got home and checked this pull and weighed it at 1.5g.


I still did what I said I'd do and put in the remaining lye and it made it nice and warm, then I put in 2 jars of already yellow naphtha + some new and I'll see what's up with it tomorrow.

It's just so strange looking and not seeing at least some crystals. Like I said ^, the recipe is right but the batter is wrong: It's the same-ish color as my test batch was but texturally it feels different. Either I wasn't doing it right then or I'm not now, because AFTER I started scraping this and letting that evap, I obviously got a gram and a half of product.

Anyone else ever have texturally different spice?
 
 
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